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Re: Richard Guest

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:44 pm
by grangers14
I will add.
Really need that marriage see what that proves.
Jo :)

Re: Richard Guest

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:50 pm
by Northern Lass
grangers14 wrote:Ok I think theres a lot more to this might be mad but :oops:
What do you think?

1851. Netherton, Dudley
Stephen Rolinson, head, 63, miner
Elizabeth, wife, 63
William Lepdad, head, 20, Labourer
Rosetta, wife, 19, Dudley
William, Round, Lodger, 16, Miner
All others born Dudley


West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1851
LEOPARD William H ROLLINSON Rosetta Sedgley, All Saints Dudley Register Office 216/006/405

Just thinking only 2 Rosettas in the area and first child called Stephen like her father?


that looks good for the couple

why is he called Leopard and then changes to Guest
we have had this before haven't we?

Re: Richard Guest

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:59 pm
by nessa
William Henry Leopard married Rosetta Rolinson February 10th 1851 he was 21 farmer from Shavers End father Henry leopard farmer, Rosetta 20, spinster from Netherton father Stephen rolinson Miner. wit were Stephen and Elizabeth Jewkes who I think were brother and sister it was there house that William Henry was living in the 1841 census, elizabeth makes an appearance on a later census with the Guests as a visitor.

Nessa

Re: Richard Guest

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 7:00 pm
by Northern Lass

Re: Richard Guest

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 7:01 pm
by grangers14
Yep lookes like it and Jewkes there again too

Re: Richard Guest

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 7:02 pm
by Northern Lass
nessa wrote:William Henry Leopard married Rosetta Rolinson February 10th 1851 he was 21 farmer from Shavers End father Henry leopard farmer, Rosetta 20, spinster from Netherton father Stephen rolinson Miner. wit were Stephen and Elizabeth Jewkes who I think were brother and sister it was there house that William Henry was living in the 1841 census, elizabeth makes an appearance on a later census with the Guests as a visitor.

Nessa


Ok so Henry Guest is Henry Leopard

why did they use that?

what did henry marry as to elizabeth?

Re: Richard Guest---------Jo adding to Bcc

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 7:21 pm
by Northern Lass
Is this that Elizabeth Willetts as mother?

did you ever send for that birth for Mary Emma Guest

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =795263351

do we have a marriage for parents

Re: Richard Guest---------Jo adding to Bcc

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 8:19 pm
by Northern Lass
viewtopic.php?f=31&t=8235&hilit=leopard+guest+mary

nessa did you ever get a birth certif for Mary Emma guest?

Re: Richard Guest---------Jo adding to Bcc

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 10:46 pm
by grangers14
I think I have added it all so far...

Stephen Rollinson here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =867708343

1841 census for Henry Guest and connected to William
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =817353682

william Guest
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =304067879

Jo:)

Re: Richard Guest---------Jo adding to Bcc

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 10:50 am
by Northern Lass
Thanks Jo :wink:

Ok so can we sort this one pls

where is the marriage again can someone just post it on this thread
for Henry Guest and Elizabeth

Nessa need to know what certifs you got
pls :grin:

Re: Richard Guest---------Jo adding to Bcc

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 11:04 am
by grangers14
This one??
Re: Leopard
by Jimmy » Fri Mar 04, 2011 3:52 pm

How sure are you that she is Elizabeth Leopard.

Henry Guest.
Groom's Birth Date: 1813.
Groom's Age: 37.
Bride's Name: Elizabeth Willitts.
Bride's Birth Date: 1804.
Bride's Age: 46.
Marriage Date: 1850.
Marriage Place: Sedgley, Stafford.
Groom's Father's Name: Henry Guest.
Bride's Father's Name: Richard Willitts.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M13532-2.
System Origin: England-VR.
Source Film Number: 1040793.
Reference Number: 2:3FX76MS.

Re: Richard Guest---------Jo adding to Bcc

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 11:14 am
by Northern Lass
Just want now the marriage for Henry Guest

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =284475896

if that is it it is very late
1850
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
GUEST Henry WILLITTS Elizabeth Sedgley, All Saints Dudley Register Office 216/006/176


William marries as William H Leopard in 1851
There is an Elizabeth Leopard with Henry in 1841

Is Elizabeth Willetts Elizabeth Leopard?

Nessa.....................!!

did you get that certif for Mary Emma Guest
need to know her mothers name is it Leopard or Willetts

Re: Richard Guest---------Jo adding to Bcc

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 11:24 am
by Northern Lass
Why does she put Leopard on 1841 ?

is this William Henry

WILLIAM HENRY GUEST Birth: 11 OCT 1833

Christening: 08 NOV 1835 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: HENRY GUEST
Mother: ELIZABETH Extracted

Was Elizabeth Willetts born as a Leopard ..........then changed her spots
to Willetts on marriage in 1850 :?

Re: Richard Guest---------Jo adding to Bcc

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 11:31 am
by Northern Lass
how do we know that that Henry Guest farmer is son of Henry Guest and Charlotte cooper?
mentioned on prev thread

linell wrote:Hi Nessa, is this Henry who Married Elizabeth; the son of Henry Guest and Charlotte Cooper? If so, do you have any idea as to when he Married an Elizabeth? There is one to an Elizabeth Spittle St Martin's B'ham 31.8.1846.

Linell.


nessa wrote:Hi linell,

That is the same but I don't have any further information other than her name. That is why I was hoping to find Mary Emma's birth certificate to see if it had the mothers name.

Nessa

Re: Richard Guest---------Jo adding to Bcc

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 11:37 am
by Northern Lass
Extracted.
Mary Emma Guest.
Birth, 19 FEB 1843.
Christening, 13 JUL 1851. Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester.
Parents:
HENRY GUEST.
ELIZABETH.

West Midlands Birth indexes for the years: 1843.
GUEST Mary. Sedgley. Dudley Register Office. SEG/012/463.

Births Mar 1843.
Guest Mary. Dudley. 18. 321.

1843
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
GUEST (girl) Dudley Dudley Register Office DUD/017/314
GUEST (girl) Sedgley Dudley Register Office SEG/013/120

Nessa you say you have sent for a few certifs were any of them these ones
so we can discount them