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Re: Groves
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:16 am
by Northern Lass
It is Frances Samuel marries not Florence
needs other sister connecting
Re: Groves-----------Jo adding
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:35 pm
by Northern Lass
going to disconnect Jo and then I can add the marriage for the one on other thread
Re: Groves-----------Jo adding
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:07 pm
by Northern Lass
1911 : Banner St Overend Cradley
BRETELL, Reuben Head Married M 27 1884 Chain Maker Iron Worcestershire Cradley
BRETELL, May Wife Married
2 years F 23 1888 Staffs Cradley Heath
GROVE, Francis Borader Widow F 32 1879 Brick Maker Staffs Cradley Heath
GROVE, Rose Borader F 12 1899 School Worcester Cradley
GROVE, Polly Borader F 9 1902 School Worcester Cradley
GROVE, Laura Borader F 9 1902 School Worcester Cradley
BRETELL, Joseph Son M 0 (10 MONTHS) 1911 Worcester Cradley
Re: Groves-----------Jo adding
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:22 pm
by grangers14
Sorry about that!
1841. Cradley Fields, Halesowen
David Grove, 55, Nailor
Hannah, 45,
Charles, 19,
Joseph, 9, born in county
All others not born in County
1851. Windmill Hill, Cradley
Charles Grove, head, 22, Nail Maker, Halesowen
Maria, wife, 25,
Rosannah, daur, 2
All others born Cradley
1861. Windmill Hill, Cradley
Charles Grove, head, 32, Carter
Maria, wife, 36, Nailer
Roseannah, daur, 12,
Joseph, son, 8,
Samuel, son, 6
Emma, daur, 3
Charles, son, 8 m?
Hannah Grove, Mother, W, 65, Nailer
All born Cradley
Re: Groves-----------Jo adding
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:42 pm
by grangers14
On two census Samuels wife is down as Catherine, 1851 as Caroline.
I cant see a marriage to a Catherine. There is this one though for Caroline?
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1880
GROVE Samuel SMART Caroline Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/035/418
But I cant find a Caroline Smart!
There is a Catherine Smart and that family are on BCC here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... art-Family
Re: Groves-----------Jo adding
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 5:50 pm
by grangers14
Ive added here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =632017764I think archive and check that marriage out first because I feel somethings odd?
Jo
Re: Groves-----------Jo adding
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 5:51 pm
by grangers14
Can anyone see them 1911 first please?
Jo
Re: Groves-----------Jo adding
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 5:55 pm
by Northern Lass
grangers14 wrote:On two census Samuels wife is down as Catherine, 1851 as Caroline.
I cant see a marriage to a Catherine. There is this one though for Caroline?
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1880
GROVE Samuel SMART Caroline Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/035/418
But I cant find a Caroline Smart!
There is a Catherine Smart and that family are on BCC here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... art-Family
but we think father for Samuel is Charles?
Re: Groves-----------Jo adding
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:08 pm
by grangers14
Yep.
But theres just something I feel not quite right, dont know what?
Or may be its Samuel jr? Just with him as son a couple of times on census?
Dont know
Jo
Re: Groves-----------Jo adding
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:46 pm
by grangers14
Marriage looked up by Rocky Fowler - Thank you!
14th March 1880. St Thomas, Dudley
Samuel Grove, 24, B, labourer, Dudley, Charles Grove, Labourer
Caroline Smart, 23, S, Dudley, John Smart, Horse Nail Maker
Banns
X of both
Witnesses:- X of Charles Grove. X of Annie Smart
Re: Groves-----------Jo adding
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:48 pm
by grangers14
If you can leave this for a moment please and I'#ll catch up with it tomorrow.
Jo
Re: Groves-----------Jo adding
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:09 pm
by grangers14
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1848
GROVE Charles KENDRICK Maria Cradley, St Peter Dudley Register Office 013/001/44
Added here
Charles
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =405167188Samuel
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =960294174Samuel jr
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =971966759Archive pending look up?
Jo