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Are you still saying this is the Mary that married John James in 1893?

mallosa wrote:er...can you explain I'm a bit lost now

This is the Mary Jones who may have married John James, going backwards, but I think we need a marriage lookup to confirm she is the right woman.

cid wrote:Marriages Sep 1893

James John W. Bromwich 6b 1156
Jones Mary W. Bromwich 6b 1156

JAMES John JONES Mary West Bromwich Register Office Sandwell Register Office WBRO/24/58

1901. 159 Rood End Rd, Oldbury.
John James 68. Retired iron worker. Oldbury.
Mary James 58. Oldbury.

cid wrote:

mallosa wrote:er...can you explain I'm a bit lost now

This is the Mary Jones who may have married John James, going backwards, but I think we need a marriage lookup to confirm she is the right woman.

Oh that's o'k then, problem though...its a register office so can't be looked up

mallosa wrote:Are you still saying this is the Mary that married John James in 1893?

Yes - trying to work out who her father is??

1851 Shidas Lane

MORRIS, William Head Married M 37 1814 Brickmaker Hales Owen Worcestershire
MORRIS, Phoebe Wife Married F 32 1819 Oldbury Worcestershire
JONES, Mary Daughter-In-Law F 9 1842 Home Oldbury Worcestershire
MORRIS, William Son M 3 1848 Oldbury Worcestershire
MORRIS, Sarah Pheobe Daughter F 0 (3W) 1851 Oldbury Worcestershire
WASTALL, Elizabeth Niece Married F 41 1810 Nurse Woman (Not Dom)Liverpool

1851 Shidas Lane

mallosa wrote:

cid wrote:

mallosa wrote:er...can you explain I'm a bit lost now

This is the Mary Jones who may have married John James, going backwards, but I think we need a marriage lookup to confirm she is the right woman.

Oh that's o'k then, problem though...its a register office so can't be looked up

Fiddlesticks

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1847

MORRIS William JONES Phebe West Bromwich, All Saints Sandwell Register Office 22/4/38

If this one is looked up we can at least see if Mary's mother was a widow, or if she had Mary before she was married at all

Possible,
Extracted.
MARY JONES.
Birth, 27 JUL 1841.
Christening, 06 NOV 1842. Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester.
Parents:
THOMAS JONES.
PHEBE.

Jimmy wrote:Possible,
Extracted.
MARY JONES.
Birth, 27 JUL 1841.
Christening, 06 NOV 1842. Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester.
Parents:
THOMAS JONES.
PHEBE.

Can you spot a marriage for them Jimmy?

Can't see one as yet.

Phew! I'm still looking for John's 1st marriage

Marriage 1847
MORRIS William JONES Phebe West Bromwich, All Saints Sandwell Register Office 22/4/38

added this for a look up - fingers crossed, eh?

mallosa wrote:Phew! I'm still looking for John's 1st marriage

Have you considered this one?

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1855
JAMES John OAKES Phebe West Bromwich, Holy Trinity Sandwell Register Office 25/1/224

Wonder is Julian should be Julia ??
Julian James
christening: 21 Dec 1856 - SMETHWICK,STAFFORD,ENGLAND
parents: John James, Phoebe

Possible death for Phoebe??
West Midlands Death indexes for the years: 1859
JAMES Phoebe Oldbury Sandwell Register Office OLD/15/59

1856.
JAMES Julia. Oldbury. Sandwell Register Office. OLD/21/19.

Thanks both, I've added that marriage for a look up, lets hope his father is Richard

Gonna archive this for now, pending look up