Maths girl wrote:1901 6, Bedford Street, West Hartlepool ROBINSON, William Head Married M 39 1862 Labourer Blast Furnaces Norfolk ROBINSON, Kate Wife Married F 34 1867 Stockton Durham ROBINSON, John Son Single M 17 1884 Labourer Rolling Mills Middlesbro Yorkshire ROBINSON, Kate Daughter Single F 8 1893 Middlesbro Yorkshire ROBINSON, Joseph Son Single M 6 1895 Middlesbro Yorkshire ROBINSON, Edward Son Single M 5 1896 Middlesbro Yorkshire ROBINSON, William Son Single M 3 1898 Wt Hartlepool Durham ROBINSON, Jane E Daughter Single F 1 1900 Wt Hartlepool Durham
This could be Catherine with husband William Robinson in 1911 1911 Census 1a Ward's Terrace Karen Lodge West Hartlepool Durham:- ROBINSON, William Head Married M 49 1862 Labourer Kings Lynn Norfolk ROBINSON, Kate Wife Married 28 years F 44 1867 Middlesbro Yorkshire ROBINSON, Peter Son Single M 23 1888 Fireman On Engine Middlesbro Yorkshire ROBINSON, Kate Daughter Single F 18 1893 Middlesbro Yorkshire ROBINSON, Joseph Son Single M 16 1895 Cleaner On Electric Bus Middlesbro Yorkshire ROBINSON, Edward Son Single M 15 1896 Butcher Assistant Middlesbro Yorkshire ROBINSON, William Son M 14 1897 Carrying From Machine West Hartlepool Durham ROBINSON, Jane Elseth Daughter F 12 1899 School West Hartlepool Durham ROBINSON, Harry Son M 10 1901 School West Hartlepool Durham ROBINSON, Tom Son M 9 1902 West Hartlepool Durham ROBINSON, Annie Daughter F 7 1904 West Hartlepool Durham ROBINSON, Albert Son M 5 1906 West Hartlepool Durham ROBINSON, Violet Daughter F 1 1910 West Hartlepool Durham
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That's all wonderful information you have found, thankyou Peter, Cid and Maths Girl. Peter I have ordered John Robinson's Marriage Certificate, I have the tree from him downwards, it's his parents that are the problem. I do now think that Catherine Espie Married Patrick Welsh, and that John, Peter, James and Mary should be Welsh not Robinson. I see that Patrick Welsh's father could be Peter, and he has a son Peter, so that would fit well. Then it looks like Catherine/Kate up sticks and moves in with William Robinson, there is no Marriage for a Catherine Welch and a William Robinson, so then it's a case of working out which of the children belong to which father. I have also sent for the birth certificate of Peter Welch and will send for the Marriage of Catherine Espie and Patrick Welch, should receive next week, will post the results on here thankyou all for your help regards aviator.
Have some further information from a couple of certificates. Peter Welsh born 7th Jan 1887 address was Hardman Street Linthorpe Middlesbrough. Father was Patrick Welsh General Labourer, Mother Catherine Welsh formerly Espie. I am now sure that Catherine Espie/Welsh/Robinson is the same lady. She had four children with Patrick Welsh then moved in with William Robinson, where there surnames all became Robinson.
Also received Marriage Certificate for Patrick Welsh and Catherine Espie looks like Espic on the Certificate. They Married 1st May 1883 St Mary's Cathedral Middlesbrough, by the Rites and Commitments of the Roman Catholic Church. Patrick was a bachelor 22 a Labourer address Hardman Street Linthorpe father Peter Welsh a Labourer. Catherine was a spinster aged 18 address Hartington Street Linthorpe father James Espie a Labourer. The witnesses are not much help a Edward Mc Gowan and a Margaret Ellen Wright.
The remaining brick walls are the father's. On the Census Catherine's father is a Samuel and Patrick's is a Patrick. Can anyone find them before the Marriage in 1883 please. Thankyou for reading this from aviator.
Have some further information from a couple of certificates. Peter Welsh born 7th Jan 1887 address was Hardman Street Linthorpe Middlesbrough. Father was Patrick Welsh General Labourer, Mother Catherine Welsh formerly Espie. I am now sure that Catherine Espie/Welsh/Robinson is the same lady. She had four children with Patrick Welsh then moved in with William Robinson, where there surnames all became Robinson.
Also received Marriage Certificate for Patrick Welsh and Catherine Espie looks like Espic on the Certificate. They Married 1st May 1883 St Mary's Cathedral Middlesbrough, by the Rites and Commitments of the Roman Catholic Church. Patrick was a bachelor 22 a Labourer address Hardman Street Linthorpe father Peter Welsh a Labourer. Catherine was a spinster aged 18 address Hartington Street Linthorpe father James Espie a Labourer. The witnesses are not much help a Edward Mc Gowan and a Margaret Ellen Wright.
The remaining brick walls are the father's. On the Census Catherine's father is a Samuel and Patrick's is a Patrick. Can anyone find them before the Marriage in 1883 please. Thankyou for reading this from aviator.
Maths girl wrote:1881 30, Commercial St, Middlesbrough DOLAN, Francis Head Married M 55 1826 Engine Works Labourer (Cm) Ireland DOLAN, Maria Wife Married F 48 1833 Ireland DOLAN, Francis Son Single M 23 1858 Boiler Smith Middlesbrough Yorkshire DOLAN, Rose A Daughter Single F 20 1861 Middlesbrough Yorkshire DOLAN, William Son Single M 19 1862 Iron Works Labourer Leeds Yorkshire DOLAN, Micheal Son Single M 17 1864 Iron Works Labourer Middlesbrough Yorkshire DOLAN, Patrick Son Single M 13 1868 Scholar Middlesbrough Yorkshire DOLAN, Stephen Son Single M 12 1869 Iron Works Labourer Middlesbrough Yorkshire HENDERSON, John Lodger Single M 47 1834 Blacksmith Harrington Durham DOLAN, Francis Lodger Head Married M 26 1855 Iron Works Labourer Ireland DOLAN, Ellon Lodgers Wife Married F 20 1861 South Stockton Yorkshire ESPIE, Samuel Lodger Head Widower M 35 1846 Labourer At Warfe Scotland ESPIE, Catherine Lodgers Daughter Single F 16 1865 Stockton Durham ESPIE, William Lodgers Son Single M 13 1868 Scholar Middlesbrough Yorkshire Some of these facts could link the corrects marriages together!