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Ok so Joan I will show the status as you state
thanks Carol

could this be her..did she have a middle name you know of

1917
BATES Joan C E Halesowen Dudley Register Office HAL/100/121

1912
ROSE George FARMER Florence Rowley Regis, St Giles Sandwell Register Office 18/10/464

So if on that 1944 marriage father is George good chance this is the couple

Possible kids for marriage incl Leslie G Rose

Births Mar 1917
Rose Jim W Farmer Dudley 6b 1483

Births Mar 1919
Rose Leslie G Farmer Dudley 6b 1194

others cannock and Lichfield

Joan would be Bate not Bates and 1917 too early . She was a little older than Dad who was born 1926. Halesowen not right either

Sure to be Blackheath or Old Hill or very close by

Think this is her

Joan Rose
Birth Date: 2 Jun 1928
Death Regist Month/Year: May 1990
Age at death (estimated): 61
Regisn district: Dudley
County: Staffordshire, Worcestershire
Volume: 33
Page: 635

actually not too sure not finding a birth with mother Tooth....

Hi NL, Yes that seems very promising. Noticed in your post 2 above you have said Staffs-don't forget Blackheath came under Worcs.

here we are it came under Rowley Regis
which was staffs
"Blackheath was part of the borough of Rowley Regis until 1966, when it became part of the county borough of Warley. Since 1974 it was formed part of the metropolitan borough of Sandwell"
wikki

rowley was split betw Dudley regis district and Staffs...so some civil regis you get from Sandwell and some from Dudley depending of the area in RRegis

from Genuki
Hamlets in the parish are Blackheath, Corngreaves, Cradley Heath, Gosty Hill, Haden Cross, Haden Hill, Hayseech, Knoll, Lye Cross, Newtown, Oakum, Old Hill, Portway, Reddal Hill, Slack Hillock, Tipety Green, Tividale, Turner's Hill, Windmill End and Whiteheath Gate "

http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/REG/dist ... regis.html

It gets very confusing- the records for Blackheath as distinct from Rowley Regis are held at the Worcs record office. I believe the postal address when Dad was little for Blackheath was Halesowen Worcs. I think this lasted until it became West Midlands. Rowley Regis village was always Staffs.The registration district as you say came under Rowley regis and later Sandwell.

Here we go I knew I had asked this of Dudley Regis office but this is for Civil regis info and who would hold it so not sure if that is different from the Postal info think it maybe


Dudley council now Covers the following areas: for certs
Stourbridge
Brierley Hill
Halesowen
Blackheath (small part)
Tipton (small part Princes End part)
Kingswinford
Quarry Bank
Dudley Centre
Sedgley
Cradley (small part)
Poss Netherton area
poss some Rowley Regis

and this was from Sandwell

"We cover the lion's share of Rowley Regis, Cradley Heath and Old
Hill,which include Redall Hill, Tibbetts Gardens and part of Corngreaves
Road,all separate areas but under the overall banner of Rowley Regis
which was a sub district of Dudley, however any overlaps are covered by
both Stourbridge and Dudley."


sorry we have gone off thread but we can put this somewhere to help others and I will delete the posts to get back on the thread later

Sorry if you've already found this

Birth 1922 Qtr 2

BATE Joan ...Tooth Dudley 6b 1688

no brilliant Mally
that is the one

Births Dec 1916
Bate Ethel Tooth Dudley 6b 1548


Births Sep 1918
Bate Annie Tooth Dudley 6b 1438

Births Jun 1922
Bate Joan Tooth Dudley 6b 1688

Hi NL and Mally -thanks this is like a New Year present-what a great start.

Edited out

Keep up the good work-this is so intriguing-must go and get changed as off out to see in the New year

Found this...

Marriage 1949

BATE Joseph B CROSS Rita O Blackheath, St Paul Stourbridge 012/012/70

Northern Lass wrote:1944
ROSE Leslie G BATE Joan Blackheath, St Paul Stourbridge Register Office 012/010/355

A couple of wedding photo's sent in by Carol

Les Rose and Joan Bate - Marriage 1944 - click here, then on each photo to enlarge