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Re: Heighway

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 7:07 pm
by grangers14
snoopysue wrote:1911 Census

22 Greetham St,
LUBECK, Antonio Head Widower, 70, Kept By My Children Chilli, chilean.
LUBECK, Marian Daughter, Spinster, 19, Liverpool
TAYLOR, Mary Agnes, 9, School, Liverpool (no mention of relation to householder).



Oh bless Antonios occupation!

Is Phillip about Snoopysue?

Jo :)

Re: Heighway

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 7:12 pm
by grangers14
1891. 73 Pitt Street, Liverpool
Antonio Lubeck, head, 46, Sailor seas, Chile
Annie, wife, 36, Liverpool
Lucinda, daur, 12,
JohnJ, son, 6, Liverpool
Phillip, son, 2, Liverpool,
Mary J Edwards, neice, 12, Liverpool
Peter Camps, boarder, 30 Sailor, Chili
Tose? Faca? boarder, 51? Portugal
Augustas Ruarthy? boarder, 28, Sailor, Germany

Re: Heighway

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 7:24 pm
by grangers14
? possible marriage
http://lancashirebmd.org.uk/index.php
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1875
FOX Hannah LUBECK Antonio Liverpool, Register Office or Registrar Attended Liverpool REG_LP/151/17

Re: Heighway

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 7:53 pm
by grangers14
So Annie possibly Hannah?

Lucinda possibly

Freebmd
Births Jun 1877
Lubeck Margarita Liverpool 8b 126

Sorry this must be Lucinda!

Lucinda Luebeck (spelling or transcription error?)
Year of Registration: 1878
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Liverpool (1837-1934)
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 124

Re: Heighway

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:01 pm
by yerffej
grangers14 wrote:Someone may see 1911.
But a possible

1901. 72 Pitt Street,
Antonio Lubeck, head, W, 56, Boarder house master, Chile South America
John Joseph, son, 17, general labourer, liverpool
Phillip, son, 12, liverpool
Marion, daur, 9, liverpool
Mary Taylor, servant, W, 35, House Keeper, Scotland
Antonio Bahamonds, boarder, 33, seaman
Estenan Retamel, boarder, 29, seaman
Rosagro Diay, boarder, 28, seaman
Antonio Romero, boarder, 30, seaman
David Lapey, boarder, 24, seaman
All others born Chile


Wow This is amazing as my mother told me that we originated from Chile!! Does this mean that Phillip aged 12 on the census is my great grandfather? I don't really understand the Antonio Lubeck, head, W, What does this mean? Thankyou so much for your help!

Re: Heighway

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:03 pm
by cid
yerffej wrote:
grangers14 wrote:Someone may see 1911.
But a possible

1901. 72 Pitt Street,
Antonio Lubeck, head, W, 56, Boarder house master, Chile South America
John Joseph, son, 17, general labourer, liverpool
Phillip, son, 12, liverpool
Marion, daur, 9, liverpool
Mary Taylor, servant, W, 35, House Keeper, Scotland
Antonio Bahamonds, boarder, 33, seaman
Estenan Retamel, boarder, 29, seaman
Rosagro Diay, boarder, 28, seaman
Antonio Romero, boarder, 30, seaman
David Lapey, boarder, 24, seaman
All others born Chile


Wow This is amazing as my mother told me that we originated from Chile!! Does this mean that Phillip aged 12 on the census is my great grandfather? I don't really understand the Antonio Lubeck, head, W, What does this mean? Thankyou so much for your help!



It means that Antonio was the head of the household and that he was a Widower.

Re: Heighway

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:14 pm
by grangers14
This looks like it could be her death but as Annie?

Annie Lubeck
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Year of Registration: 1892
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 32
District: Liverpool (1837-1934)
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 53

Re: Heighway

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:18 pm
by grangers14
Antonios death?

Antonic Lubeck
Death Registration Month/Year: 1916
Age at death (estimated): 72
Registration district: West Derby
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 475

Re: Heighway

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:44 pm
by yerffej
After doing the maths it looks like Annie could quite possibly be the right one (looking at the ages of the children etc in 1901) and also if Antonio was 56 in 1901 then his age when he died would be 71/72 so that looks correct as well. There seem to be a lot of Hannah Fox's and I can't seem to get any children from either hannah and Antonio or from him and Hannah. Ha anyone managed to find out anything else?

Re: Heighway

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:09 pm
by grangers14
I havent been able to see Antonio or his family in 1881 yet :?

Jo :)

Re: Heighway

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:12 pm
by peterd
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Re: Heighway

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:14 pm
by peterd
Lancashire Marriage 1912
LUBECK Marion PERRIN William E West Derby, Register Office or Registrar Attended Liverpool REG_WD/280/21

Lancashire Marriage 1920
LUBECK Philip KIRK Jane West Derby, Register Office or Registrar Attended Liverpool REG_WD/368/143

Re: Heighway

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:16 pm
by yerffej
I'm asuming that Antonio would have come over from Chile at some point so probably can't trace him back any further Do you know if we can find out Annie's maiden name?

Re: Heighway

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:36 pm
by Jimmy
Do you have the marriage cert for this marriage,

William L W S Heighway. Lubeck. Apr-May-Jun 1940. Liverpool.

Phyllis Lubeck. Heighway. Apr-May-Jun 1940. Liverpool.

Re: Heighway

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:55 pm
by grangers14
Williams marriage was 1940 so possibly born 1920 or earlier.
I cant see a possible birth? Middle names may not be there though :?
If you bought his marriage certificate it will give you his fathers name and will make things easier
Jo :)