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Details on Cert are:- Marriage Oct 7 1863 The Parish Church of Halesowen

Meshach Hacket 21 Bachelor Nailor Boro Benjamin Hackett Nailer

Hannah Rose 19 Spinster Boro William Rose Nailer

Witnesses Thomas Hackett and Claire Hadley.

The first census I found Meshach on was 1871, he was living at 194 Crescent, Hasbury. I could find no Birth Cert.

thanks PJ
I have been looking and the only one that I could find for a birth regis is a Tromans in 1844 Dudley but he belongs to a Matthew and susannah.

or in 1845 an Mesahack Oakley


very odd

On the 1851 census there is a William Rose with a Jane and they have kids Hannah age 7 Emma age 4 and Thomas 3 mths.

Could that be the sister of Hannah Rose that marries John Andrews. I think it might be.

PJ do you know anymore about that family?

William is a nailer b Worcs northfield age 37.
I think she may be a Jane wheeler not sure...my head is spinning with this lot!

All I have on William Rose is a possible maiden name of wife Jane Page and yes the children tie up with Hannah, Emma and Thomas. They have her age wrong on the 1851 census but correct on 1861.

On the 1851 I found the family in warwick b'ham and Hannah is age 7 which tallies with her marred age 19
so b 1844.

Think I saw the family on a later census and it said the Jane with a William Rose was a Jane Wheeler but think I lost the plot by then!

those 2 Andrews in 1881 must be Emmas kids as Pete flagged
need the marriage looked up I will add it to the list. see if that Emma who marries John is dau of a Wm nailer.

Who is that Thomas Hackett a bro to Meshach?

Couldn't find Meshach or Ellen, so I thought I would post the two Benjamin's to try and make sense of them all and maybe someone with new eyes might see something

#1 Benjamin married Ann Beard 13 FEB 1837 Kingswinford (extracted)

submitted
BENJAMIN HACKETT
Christening: 13 SEP 1809 Rowley Regis
Father: JOSEPH HACKETT
Mother: MARY HACKETT

1841
New Street, Rowley
Benjamin Hackett 24 - Nailmaker
Ann Hackett 23 - n b in c
Jane Hackett 1
others b in county

Poss on Thomas Hackett with Grandparents
1841
Joseph Hackett 71 - Nail m
Mary Hackett 70
Ragan Parsons 13
Thomas Hackett 4

next door
John Hackett 44 - Nail m
Sarah Hackett 40
James Hackett 18
Ruth Hackett 17
John Hackett 12
Shadroch Hackett 11
Levi Hackett 7
Ephram Hackett 5
Rosanna Hackett 3
John Harkett 30 - Nail m - does look like he's living at the same addy

1851
22
Haley Green, Lutley
Benjamin Hackett 34
Ann Hackett 33 - b Dudley
Thomas Hackett 14
Jane Hackett 11
Margaret Hackett 8
Elizabeth Hackett 1 - b Haley Green
Nailors others b Rowley

1861

Linell
Short Cross Halesowen
Benjamin 44
Ann 43
Elizabeth 11
Sarah 8
Mary 5

Next door a Thomas Hackett aged 24.

This Thomas possibly married Maria Purcell
Father: Benjamin Hacket
Spouse: Maria Purcell
Marriage: 25 OCT 1863 Rowley Regis
Husband Age at Marriage: 22
Wife Age at Marriage: 21
Batch # I025049

1871
11
Short Cross, Halesowen
Benjamin Hackett 54 - b Rowley
Anne Hackett 53 - b Dudley
Agnes Hackett 4 - Granddaug - Halesowen

1881
10
Stourbridge Road, Halesowen
Benjamin Hackett 64 - Nail forger - b Old Hill
Ann Hackett 63 - b Netherton

1891
236
Cross Street, Hasbury
Benjamin Hackett 74 - Nailor - b Old Hill
Ann Hackett 73 - b Netherton

#2 Benjamin married Matilda Clift 19 MAY 1839 Saint Thomas (extracted)

1841
East side of Hadley Street, Halesowen
Benjamin Hockett 25 - Painter
Netelda Hockett 20
Ann Hockett 1
all b in c

2 door away
Thomas Hacket 35 - Carter
Harriet Hacket 40
Ellen Hacket 11
Arthur 8
Alfred 6
all b in c

Extracted Marriage
THOMAS HACKETT
Spouse: HARRIET WHITE
Marriage: 16 NOV 1834 Halesowen


1851
58
Bulls Ring, Halesowen
Benjamin Wickett 35 - Journeyman Glazier?
Matilda Wickett 34 - Washer woman
Ann Wickett 11
George Wickett 6
James Wickett 1
all b Halesowen

1861

Linell
Whitehall Halesowen
Benjamin 44
Matilda 44
Thomas 19
George 17
James 12
Catherine 10
Frederick 7
William 4

1871
98
Birmingham Street, Spring Green?, Halesowen
Benjamin Hackett 55 - Painter journeyman
Matilda Hackett 55
James Hackett 22 - Painter journeyman
Catherine Hackett 20 - Dom servant unemployed
William Hackett 13
Fred Hackett 11 - (17) - Painter journeyman
all b Halesowen

Deaths Sep 1873
Hackett Matilda 58 Stourbridge 6c 87

Jun 1873
Hackett Benjamin 57 Stourbridge 6c 83

Thomas Hackett was Meshach's brother he was born abt 1879 and died in WW1 at Flanders on 28/5/1918. He married Phoebe Hadley about 1900 on the 1881 Census they were at 10 Market Street Blackheath.

powerj wrote:Thomas Hackett was Meshach's brother he was born abt 1879 and died in WW1 at Flanders on 28/5/1918. He married Phoebe Hadley about 1900 on the 1881 Census they were at 10 Market Street Blackheath.

I am confused....how can Meshach marry in 1863 this Thomas Hackett be a witness and yet not born until 1879

Could this one....be the Ellen one?
The name Margaret...could she be a Margaret Ellen?
The age would fit...ish
and there is a Jane there ....the witness in 1863 for Ellen is Jane Mountford...who is she?

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections

185122
Haley Green, Lutley
Benjamin Hackett 34
Ann Hackett 33 - b Dudley
Thomas Hackett 14
Jane Hackett 11
Margaret Hackett 8
Elizabeth Hackett 1 - b Haley Green
Nailors others b Rowley

no scrub that one this Benjamin if he was Ellens father should be dead by 1863 and this one is still alive

187111
Short Cross, Halesowen
Benjamin Hackett 54 - b Rowley
Anne Hackett 53 - b Dudley
Agnes Hackett 4 - Granddaug - Halesowen

This one though.... the names....Ellen, Arthur...

Ellen calls one of her kids Arthur...

Was she known maybe as nellie? instead of Ellen?

1841East side of Hadley Street, Halesowen
Benjamin Hockett 25 - Painter
Netelda Hockett 20
Ann Hockett 1
all b in c

2 door away
Thomas Hacket 35 - Carter
Harriet Hacket 40
Ellen Hacket 11
Arthur 8
Alfred 6
all b in c

But this Ben cant be hers either cos he too is still alive in 1871......
but those names....hmmm

Sorry the Thomas I was on about ws his son, it was early for me when I posted

Well I am lost on this one now too many Hacketts!

I have looked and looked and cannot find Meshach or Ellen with a Benjamin prior to their marriages.

I think it may be an idea to find the witnesses at the marriages
any other ideas?

Is it a coincidence that the witnesses to Meshach and Hannah were Thomas Hackett and Claire Hadley. Then Meshach's son Thomas married Phoebe Hadley?

Will try and have a look later, must get on with the preperations for Christmas!

Thomas Hacket 35 - Carter
Harriet Hacket 40
Ellen Hacket 11
Arthur 8
Alfred 6
all b in c

It's not this family NL they are my Gt and Gt Gt Grandparents, they are on BCC. Could this Ellen be a Widow? Has PJ got the Marriage Cert? linell.

I think we should chase the witnesses at the marriages for Ellen and Meshach....

Who are Josiah Bradney and Jane mountford at Ellens
and
Who are Thomas Hackett and Claire Hadley at Meshach's

as PJ says odd that a Phoebe Hadley marries Thomas Hackett later on....is Claire her mother?