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Re: Prom Night! Aggghhhh...
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:42 pm
by MarkCDodd
Rob, don't put Australia Day amongst the commercialised and lighthearted celebrations.
It is an important day to Australians and the only people who make money out of it are the flag sellers.
I would quite happily get rid of the Queen's Birthday public holiday in Australia.
Its not even held anywhere near H.R.H's birthday anyway!
Re: Prom Night! Aggghhhh...
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:20 am
by snoopysue
MarkCDodd wrote:I would quite happily get rid of the Queen's Birthday public holiday in Australia.
Its not even held anywhere near H.R.H's birthday anyway!
Most people in the UK don't have that one! If you work for the civil service or health service or similar you have (or did when I worked in the british health service) an extra "bank holiday". Some places gave it in connection with one of the other bank holidays, some gave you the choice as to when you took it. The British don't have a constition day or a bank holiday for any of the patron saints!
Re: Prom Night! Aggghhhh...
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:12 am
by gardener
snoopysue wrote: The British don't have a constition day or a bank holiday for any of the patron saints!
You don't need a Constitution Day if you don't have a constitution
Actually, some of the British have bank hols for Patron Saints - they do in Scotland and Northern Ireland (not sure about Wales). A government site says
"Businesses and schools are not necessarily closed on Scottish bank holidays, and the Scottish banks follow the English and Welsh bank holidays for business reasons."
Which makes me wonder why they have a Bank Holiday if the Banks aren't closed because they follow English bank holidays for business reasons. Is it a Bank Holiday if the banks are not on holiday?
Re: Prom Night! Aggghhhh...
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:34 am
by snoopysue
gardener wrote:snoopysue wrote: The British don't have a constition day or a bank holiday for any of the patron saints!
You don't need a Constitution Day if you don't have a constitution
Actually, some of the British have bank hols for Patron Saints - they do in Scotland and Northern Ireland (not sure about Wales). A government site says
"Businesses and schools are not necessarily closed on Scottish bank holidays, and the Scottish banks follow the English and Welsh bank holidays for business reasons."
Which makes me wonder why they have a Bank Holiday if the Banks aren't closed because they follow English bank holidays for business reasons. Is it a Bank Holiday if the banks are not on holiday?
But there is an unwrittain constitution, even though it isn't law! Otherwise we couldn't have a constitutional monarchy (and GB claims to have the oldest constitutional monarchy!).
Wales doesn't have a bank holiday on St Davids Day (1st March), either officially or otherwise.
I'd say you can only call it a "bank" holiday if the banks are closed! Otherwise they should find another name!
Re: Prom Night! Aggghhhh...
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:48 pm
by gardener
I'd say you can only call it a "bank" holiday if the banks are closed! Otherwise they should find another name!
Perhaps they could call it "An optional public holiday".
How is it in Denmark? Here we don't get these alternative days, so if Christmas day falls on a weekend it is just tough luck. We get 1st May and the National day on June 17th (as long as long as they are not a weekend day), and First day of Summer which is always a Thursday which is pretty stupid as it doesn't even make for a long weekend. Ascension Day is naturally always a Thursday so no long weekend there either. And this year First Day of Summer coincides with Maundy Thursday which is a holiday anyhow, so we lose that one

Re: Prom Night! Aggghhhh...
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:05 pm
by snoopysue
gardener wrote:I'd say you can only call it a "bank" holiday if the banks are closed! Otherwise they should find another name!
Perhaps they could call it "An optional public holiday".
How is it in Denmark? Here we don't get these alternative days, so if Christmas day falls on a weekend it is just tough luck. We get 1st May and the National day on June 17th (as long as long as they are not a weekend day), and First day of Summer which is always a Thursday which is pretty stupid as it doesn't even make for a long weekend. Ascension Day is naturally always a Thursday so no long weekend there either. And this year First Day of Summer coincides with Maundy Thursday which is a holiday anyhow, so we lose that one

It's the same here as far as them falling on a weekend!
Other than that we get New Years Day, Maunday thursday, Good Friday, Easter Monday, Accension Day, Whit monday(which is always held on the correct monday, not like in Britain where it's been changed to spring bank holiday), Great Praying Day (direct translation, a day which amalgamated all the different saints days into one, always on a friday). 1st May and Constitution Day are two half days, but this year both fall on a sunday, so we lose them.
I'm lucky as far as my employment goes, cos we get Christmas Eve too, and we get extra free days if Christmas falls on a weekend - but that's not normal. I really miss tha August Bank holiday, as we have nothing between june and christmas.
All in all it's okay, cos we get a couple more than the UK, so with the one's we lose due to being a weekend, it evens things out!
Re: Prom Night! Aggghhhh...
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:49 pm
by Maths girl
I think the original "Bank Holiday" name was literally that when the law brought in days when the banks should close and everybody have a holiday because business could not be done --- that was long before the internet meant you could do all your shopping etc at anytime fo the day or night!!!
Bank Holiday's were introduced as part of improvement working conditions -- before that the only day that most people could have off was Christmas Day -- Remember Scrooge and Bob Cratchett !?
Re: Prom Night! Aggghhhh...
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:23 pm
by gardener
That's right, and why there are so many weddings on Christmas Day.
Re: Prom Night! Aggghhhh...
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:24 pm
by snoopysue
gardener wrote:That's right, and why there are so many weddings on Christmas Day.
Hadn't thourght of that as a reason for weddings being on Christmas day, just thourght that it probably wouldn't happen today!
Re: Prom Night! Aggghhhh...
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 9:01 pm
by beardie
Rob wrote:gardener wrote:My dad refused to acknowledge Father's Day, claiming it was a commercial American import. I'm inclined to say that about Proms. Thank goodness we never had them when I was at school!
I agree with Gardner!!
I do not acknowledge Fathers Day Mothers Day or Valentine Day.
My parents know or knew i loved and appreciated them as does my wife(i think). I refuse to pay exhorbitant prices for flowers to line the pockets of fat capitalistic pigs!!Nice one Rob!!
Halloween and Prom Nights ?? What's that all about?
Chinese New Year, Australia Day,Yom Kippur where's it going to end?
After Parties!? Oh thats another thread!!
you sound like a radcliffe beardie

Re: Prom Night! Aggghhhh...
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 9:05 pm
by grangers14
snoopysue wrote:gardener wrote:That's right, and why there are so many weddings on Christmas Day.
Hadn't thourght of that as a reason for weddings being on Christmas day, just thourght that it probably wouldn't happen today!
My friends daughter had problems having hers Christmas eve last year!
I used to get 10 bank holidays when I worked for the NHS. Extra one in May and August I think it was, long time since I worked mind
BUT

back to the subject....
She decided on a dress and we got it today! Seems odd saying it now after all this
Far too much too pay really we dont have it but she said she will pay half
So this is the dress but not that colour, its in fushia
http://www.davincibridal.com/images/lar ... 0058FM.jpgAm blaming Mark for the expense!
Jo

Re: Prom Night! Aggghhhh...
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 9:10 pm
by gardener
Am blaming Mark for the expense!
That is a good plan!
Lovely dress, and a halterneck will fit well. It doesn't scream prom either so she can perhaps wear it again later - or sell it maybe.
Re: Prom Night! Aggghhhh...
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 9:42 pm
by Maths girl
Lovely dress and as gardener says will be appropriate for other occasions too.
Re: Prom Night! Aggghhhh...
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:11 pm
by grangers14
Keep saying that... to wear again!
Dont think you can wear the same for 6th form prom or graduation!
I dont think I would mind.
Deal is done now so...
She will look lovely on the day am sure.
Learning confidence and belief in themselves is more important I think
(spelling I may have made a mistake!

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Wish I had known Auntie Em made dresses I would have sent an order! Oh it needs altering by the way!
Am playing so dont worry!
Think it should be another thread for "Holidays" would be intersting to see what is important and who gets what where they live
Jo

Re: Prom Night! Aggghhhh...
Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:01 am
by expat66
grangers14 wrote:snoopysue wrote:gardener wrote:That's right, and why there are so many weddings on Christmas Day.
Hadn't thourght of that as a reason for weddings being on Christmas day, just thourght that it probably wouldn't happen today!
My friends daughter had problems having hers Christmas eve last year!
I used to get 10 bank holidays when I worked for the NHS. Extra one in May and August I think it was, long time since I worked mind
BUT

back to the subject....
She decided on a dress and we got it today! Seems odd saying it now after all this
Far too much too pay really we dont have it but she said she will pay half
So this is the dress but not that colour, its in fushia
http://www.davincibridal.com/images/lar ... 0058FM.jpgAm blaming Mark for the expense!
Jo

That is a very beautiful dress!...good choice
Expat