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Northern Lass wrote:1881.
Edward GREGARY Head W Male 82 Thri...kstone, Leicester, Hawker.
Ann LAWLEY Daur M Female 39 Wellow, Nottingham, Hawker.
Silvanus LAWLEY Son In Law M Male 38 B...ley, Worcester, Labr Agr. Bewdley on image.
Robert GREGARY Grandson U Male 24 M..., Derby, Hawker.
Elizabeth GREGARY Granddaur Female 7 Tickhill, York, Scholar.
Isabella PARRY Boarder W Female 50 Peckham, Surrey, Hawker.

Sunderland St
Tickhill, York.

Is this Sylvanus calling him self Robert.

1891. Church St, Misson, Nottinghamshire.
Robert Lawley 50. Brick layer. Rock.
Ann Lawley 49. Wellow, Nottinghamshire.

Basics.
1911. Mansfield.
LAWLEY SILVANIES. M. 1845. 66. Born Rock.
LAWLEY DELARA LAVINA ANN. F. 1840. 71.

1901. 14 Chandler St, Mansfield.
Robert Lamley 60. General labourer. Bewdley, Worcestershire.
Ann Lamley 60. Wellow, Nottinghamshire.

Jimmy wrote:Basics.
1911. Mansfield.
LAWLEY SILVANIES. M. 1845. 66. Born Rock.
LAWLEY DELARA LAVINA ANN. F. 1840. 71.

1911
4 Chandlers Court Mansfield
LAWLEY, Silvanies Head Married M 66 1845 Pedfar Rock Worstershire
LAWLEY, Delara Lavina Ann Wife Married 33 years F 71 1840 Mansfield Notts
NO CHILDREN

Northern Lass wrote:25 Dec 1864 St Thomas Dudley
Silvanus Lawley 19 bach labourer Dudley James Lawley Labourer
Hannah Round 23 spinster Dudley James Round Labourer
banns<br>
X both<br>
Wit- X Eliza Smith / X James Smith

Louisa Lawley.
Baptism/Christening Date: 16 Mar 1870.
Baptism/Christening Place: SAINT THOMAS,DUDLEY,WORCESTER.
Birth Date: 24 Jun 1865.
Father's Name: Sylvanas Lawley.
Mother's Name: Hannah.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C04014-8.
System Origin: England-ODM.
Source Film Number: 378785.[/quote]

Its possible they only married for the sake of the child Louisa, and then went their separate ways.

Hannah and Louisa baps on the same day... 16 Mar 1870

Jimmy wrote:

Northern Lass wrote:25 Dec 1864 St Thomas Dudley
Silvanus Lawley 19 bach labourer Dudley James Lawley Labourer
Hannah Round 23 spinster Dudley James Round Labourer
banns<br>
X both<br>
Wit- X Eliza Smith / X James Smith

Louisa Lawley.
Baptism/Christening Date: 16 Mar 1870[/u].
Baptism/Christening Place: SAINT THOMAS,DUDLEY,WORCESTER.
Birth Date: [u]24 Jun 1865.
Father's Name: Sylvanas Lawley.
Mother's Name: Hannah.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C04014-8.
System Origin: England-ODM.
Source Film Number: 378785
Its possible they only married for the sake of the child Louisa, and then went their separate ways.

From Round & Lawley thread...

Extracted
HANNAH ROUND
Birth: 10 JUL 1835
Christening: 16 MAR 1870 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester
Parents:
Father: JAMES ROUND
Mother: PHEBE

and
Submitted
Hannah Round
Birth: 1840 Dudley, Worcester
Parents:
Father: James Round
Mother: Mrs. Phebe Round

Sibs
Extracted
Parents James Round & Phoebe
JAMES HENRY ROUND
Birth: 14 MAR 1841
Christening: 09 MAR 1870 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester

ISAIAH ELIJAH ROUND
Birth: 03 JUN 1849
Christening: 09 MAR 1870 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester

So that would mean his second marriage would that be legal if wife around???

or did she die before he married again?

Albert Tibberts.
Groom's Birth Date: 1864.
Groom's Age: 20.
Bride's Name: Louisa Lawley.
Bride's Birth Date: 1865.
Bride's Age: 19.
Marriage Date: 13 Apr 1884.
Marriage Place: Sedgley Parish, Lower Gornall, Stafford.
Groom's Father's Name: Samuel Tibberts.
Bride's Father's Name: Sylvanus Lawley.
Groom's Marital Status: Single.
Bride's Marital Status: Single.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01471-0.
System Origin: England-EASy.
Source Film Number: 1470604.
Reference Number: it5, p32.

Northern Lass wrote:So that would mean his second marriage .....wasn't legal if first wife still around

or did she die before he married again?

When did Hannah die

did we find her on 1881?

if she died betw 1864 and 1878 ....he is in the clear

I can't see a death that fits,

A possible second marriage for Hannah, living same area as in 1871.

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1872.
ROUND Hannah. CROSS George. Halesowen, St John the Baptist. Dudley Register Office. 014/004/10.

Extracted.
HANNAH ROUND.
GEORGE CROSS.
Marriage, About 18 FEB 1872. Halesowen, Worcester.
Husband Age at Marriage: 38.
Wife Age at Marriage: 32.

1881. 9 The Hurst, Dudley.
George Cross 47. Labourer in iron works. Wales.
Hannah Cross 41.
Annie Cross 8.
Emily Cross 4.
Florence Cross 1.

Others born Dudley.

Jimmy wrote:I can't see a death that fits,

soz Jimmy I meant 1864-1878

So we have the first marriage info
we can get that poss 2nd marriage info

what about that doncaster one
I am really tempted to send for that one

And she gets bapt same day as day Louisa
wonder why?

those bapts are worth looking for

Hannah was still alive 1871.

Yorkshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1878.
LAWLEY Silvanus. GREGORY Delana La. Doncaster. Register Office. Doncaster. DON/12/39.

Jimmy wrote:Hannah was still alive 1871.

so she doesnt die betw 1871 and 1878

I think that marriage is Hannah RF has sent it to me

father is James a moulder
she is aged 22 dress maker widow!!

so if Sylvannus is still alive how can she get married!

have we uncovered a bit of a secret?