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Re: Ellen Whitehouse

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 9:45 pm
by FarSide
This looks like their first kid
but I don't see them on the 51 as yet

Extracted
Joseph Whitehouse
Christening: 17 NOV 1850 Rowley Regis, Stafford
Parents:
Father: James Whitehouse
Mother: Hannah Whitehouse

Re: Ellen Whitehouse

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:07 pm
by Jimmy
All I can See is, could it have been mistranscribed, ages fit, Hannah's birth place fits with 1871 and 1881 census.

1851. Cherry Orchard St, Rowley Regis.
James Bird 19. Coalminer. Regis. Regis.
Hannah Bird 19. Dudley.
Joseph Bird 6 MO. Rowley Regis.

Re: Ellen Whitehouse

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:17 pm
by Jimmy
Jimmy wrote:All I can See is, could it have been mistranscribed, ages fit, Hannah's birth place fits with 1871 and 1881 census.

1851. Cherry Orchard St, Rowley Regis.
James Bird 19. Coalminer. Regis. Regis.
Hannah Bird 19. Dudley.
Joseph Bird 6 MO. Rowley Regis.


This one was born about October November 1850. 1851 Census was 30 March 1851.

Re: Ellen Whitehouse

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:27 pm
by Jimmy
Who is Ann Whitehouse.

1841. New St, Rowley Regis.
James Bird 40. Nail m.
Hannah Bird 37.
John Bird 18.
James Bird 9.
Benjamin Bird 4.
Samuel Bird 2.
Joseph Bird 3 Weeks.
Ann Whitehouse 18.

Re: Ellen Whitehouse

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:31 pm
by Jimmy
Jimmy wrote:Who is Ann Whitehouse.

1841. New St, Rowley Regis.
James Bird 40. Nail m.
Hannah Bird 37.
John Bird 18.
James Bird 9.
Benjamin Bird 4.
Samuel Bird 2.
Joseph Bird 3 Weeks.
Ann Whitehouse 18.


Same family.
1851. Blackheath.
James Bird 51.
Hanah Bird 48.
Benjaman Bird 14.
Samuel Bird 12.
Joseph Bird 9.

Re: Ellen Whitehouse

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 12:50 am
by FarSide
Jimmy wrote:
Jimmy wrote:Who is Ann Whitehouse.

1841. New St, Rowley Regis.
James Bird 40. Nail m.
Hannah Bird 37.
John Bird 18.
James Bird 9.
Benjamin Bird 4.
Samuel Bird 2.
Joseph Bird 3 Weeks.
Ann Whitehouse 18.


Same family.
1851. Blackheath.
James Bird 51.
Hanah Bird 48.
Benjaman Bird 14.
Samuel Bird 12.
Joseph Bird 9.


Poss
Extracted
JAMES BIRD
Marriages:
Spouse: ANN WHITEHOUSE
Marriage: 23 DEC 1821 Dudley, Worcester

Poss
PR RR
24 Mar 1823 Ann d of Joseph & Hannah Whitehouse, Portway, Nailer

Re: Ellen Whitehouse

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 10:01 am
by Jimmy
James Bird.
Bride's Name: Hannah Whitehouse.
Marriage Date: 26 May 1836.
Marriage Place: Dudley, Worcester.
Groom's Marital Status: Widowed.
Bride's Marital Status: Widowed.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M02048-4.
System Origin: England-EASy.
Source Film Number: 350611.
Reference Number: Pg 239 No 715.

Re: Ellen Whitehouse

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 10:44 am
by grangers14
Am lost now? :roll:

So you think 1851 census is James Whitehouse not bird, ages fit, place of birth and James occupation?

Re: Ellen Whitehouse

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 10:56 am
by grangers14
Jimmy wrote:Who is Ann Whitehouse.

1841. New St, Rowley Regis.
James Bird 40. Nail m.
Hannah Bird 37.
John Bird 18.
James Bird 9.
Benjamin Bird 4.
Samuel Bird 2.
Joseph Bird 3 Weeks.
Ann Whitehouse 18.


Possibly ?
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1846
WHITEHOUSE Ann ALLDRIDGE David Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/007/97

1851. Rack Hill, Bisley Gloucestershire
David Aldridge, head, 27, Day Labourer
Ann, wife, 28, Cloth Finisher
George, son, 3,
Hannah, daur, 1
All born Bisley

1861. Blackheath, Rowley Regis
James Bird, head, 61, Nailer
Hannah, wife, 58,
Ann Alldrige, lodger, W, 38,
George Alldrige, son, 13, Chalford, Gloucestshire
Hannah Alldrige, daur, 11

All others born Rowley Regis

Re: Ellen Whitehouse

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 11:07 am
by Jimmy
grangers14 wrote:Am lost now? :roll:

So you think 1851 census is James Whitehouse not bird, ages fit, place of birth and James occupation?


I can't see any one else that fits.

Re: Ellen Whitehouse

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 11:14 am
by Jimmy
grangers14 wrote:Possibly ?
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1846
WHITEHOUSE Ann ALLDRIDGE David Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/007/97


Submitted on IGI. not on the Beta site.
DAVID ALLDRIDGE.
Father, MICHAEL ALLDRIDGE.

ANN WHITEHOUSE.
Father, JOSEPH.
Marriage, 13 APR 1846. Dudley, Worcester.

Re: Ellen Whitehouse

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 11:23 am
by Jimmy
Ann Whitehouse.
Baptism/Christening Date: 24 Mar 1823.
Baptism/Christening Place: Rowley Regis, Stafford.
Birthplace: Portway.
Father's Name: Joseph Whitehouse.
Mother's Name: Hannah Whitehouse.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C04349-6.
System Origin: England-EASy.
Source Film Number: 350577.
Reference Number: 1145.

Re: Ellen Whitehouse

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 11:28 am
by grangers14
I know we dont go with things on Ancestry trees but theres a tree that says Hannah Edwards as wife. They have two birth certs too so you would think they have that from there too?

It looks like some later stuff doesnt really fit though? :roll:

I think if we get that marriage checked out and see if that helps us.
What do you think?
Jo :)

Re: Ellen Whitehouse

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 1:19 pm
by Jimmy
grangers14 wrote:??
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1850
WHITEHOUSE James EDWARDS Hannah Dudley, St Edmund Dudley Register Office 201/001/311

Jimmy wrote:
Jimmy wrote:All I can See is, could it have been mistranscribed, ages fit, Hannah's birth place fits with 1871 and 1881 census.




1851. Cherry Orchard St, Rowley Regis.
James Bird 19. Coalminer. Regis. Regis.
Hannah Bird 19. Dudley.
Joseph Bird 6 MO. Rowley Regis.


I agree we need this marriage looked up, but I can not see a marriage for this James Bird and Hannah.

Re: Ellen Whitehouse

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 1:48 pm
by Jimmy
Jimmy wrote:1851. Tippetty Green, Rowley Regis.
Elizabeth Whitehouse 52. Widow. Retierd Nailer.
John Whitehouse 25.
Joseph Whitehouse 23.
James Whitehouse 20. Nailer.

All born Rowley Regis.

1841. ???? Lake, Rowley Regis.
Elizbath Whitehouse 40. Nailer.
William Whitehouse 15.
John Whitehouse 15.
Joseph Whitehouse 13.
James Whitehouse 10.


James Whitehouse.
Baptism/Christening Date: 08 Aug 1830.
Baptism/Christening Place: Rowley-Regis, Stafford.
Birthplace: Tipity Green.
Father's Name: Willm Whitehouse.
Mother's Name: Elizth Whitehouse.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02516-6.
System Origin: England-EASy.
Source Film Number: 350500.
Reference Number: yr 1828-1837 p 241.