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Jimmy wrote:

Jimmy wrote:1911 basics, West Bromwich. same house.

HARVEY HENRY. M 1879. 32.
HARVEY FLORIE. F 1881 30.
HARVEY THOMAS. H. M. 1904. 7.
HARVEY JOSEPH. M. 1906. 5.
HARVEY HENRY. M. 1910. 8 MONTHS.

Could someone post the full details on this please.

1911 Image States: Address: 2 Court, 2 House, Oldbury.
Henry HARVEY hd. 32 Brickmaking b. Oldbury
Florrie HARVEY wife 30 Marr.10 years. b. Oldbury
Elizabeth Harvey dau. CROSSED OUT.
Thomas H.HARVEY son 7 b. Oldbury.
Joseph HARVEY son 5 b. Oldbury
Eliza?? Harvey dau. CROSSED OUT.
Henry HARVEY son 8 mths. b. Oldbury
Richard Haynes Grandfather widower 80 Old Age Pensioner b. Bridgenorth.
5 children...3 living...2 died. Living in 3 rooms.

westbromval wrote:can someone please help meto find out what happen to them mother florence hill and henry harvey joe born 1906 and henry born1910 have known records or pictures off them they were my fathers brothers thanks

Hi Val

I've put all details, including the 1911 Census on BCC here : http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections

I have details of children born after 1910 (including your dad) - I'll PM them to you

Your cousin, and my brother in Law, Stuart tells me that when Florrie died in 1922, he thinks the children were taken on by an Aunt. Can't remember the details now, but I'll give him a ring today. I have searched all the baptisms held at Sandwell, but can't find any of the children. Stuart thinks they were all baptised at Chances. They did have a chapel there, but I don't think the records have survived. I'll ask again at Sandwell, because they have uncovered lots of stuff from Chances, since the last time I did any work on the Harveys.

Maggie

Is this the Grandfathers family:
1871 Popes Lane, Oldbury
Richard HAYNES hd. 43 Blacksmith b. Shropshire
Elizabeth HAYNES wife 44 b. Oldbury
Edwin HAYNES son 11 b. Oldbury
Joseph HAYNES son 6 b. Oldbury
ELIZABETH HAYNES dau.9 b. Oldbury
Alfred HAYNES son 2 b. Oldbury
Joseph Lacy boarder 30 Lab. b. Bromsgrove.

sparkstopper wrote:Is this the Grandfathers family:
1871 Popes Lane, Oldbury
Richard HAYNES hd. 43 Blacksmith b. Shropshire
Elizabeth HAYNES wife 44 b. Oldbury
Edwin HAYNES son 11 b. Oldbury
Joseph HAYNES son 6 b. Oldbury
ELIZABETH HAYNES dau.9 b. Oldbury
Alfred HAYNES son 2 b. Oldbury
Joseph Lacy boarder 30 Lab. b. Bromsgrove.

Yes - that's them Sparkstopper - I have them on my Family Tree - I'll add them to BCC later

can not find elizabeth or eliza brith or deaths any where

westbromval wrote:can not find elizabeth or eliza brith or deaths any where

Which Elizabeth and Eliza do you mean Val ?

Elizabeth Haynes :
Registered in September Qtr 1861 - West Bromwich District - Sub District of Oldbury

elizabeth and eliza harvey who are on the 1911 census

from Free BMD

Births Jun 1901
HARVEY Elizabeth W. Bromwich 6b 864

Births Dec 1904
Harvey Elizabeth W. Bromwich 6b 860

Births Mar 1903
Harvey Eliza Matilda W. Bromwich 6b 855

Births Jun 1909
Harvey Eliza W. Bromwich 6b 841


Deaths Dec 1903
Harvey Elizabeth 2 W. Bromwich 6b 498

Deaths Sep 1907
HARVEY Elizabeth 3 W. Bromwich 6b 400

Deaths Dec 1903.
Harvey Elizabeth. age 2. W. Bromwich. 6b. 498

Deaths Sep 1907.
HARVEY Elizabeth. age 3. W. Bromwich. 6b. 400.

Deaths Sep 1909.
HARVEY Eliza. age 0. W. Bromwich. 6b. 412.

Marriage ? Dec 1900
Harvey Henry W. Bromwich 6b 1483
Hill Florrie W. Bromwich 6b 1483

westbromval wrote:elizabeth and eliza harvey who are on the 1911 census

There are a few Eliza's and Elizabeths on the list found by CID and Jimmy. The only way of finding out which ones belong to Henry and Florrie is by either getting certificates or looking through the baptisms and burials held at Sandwell. I found a couple of baptisms for children of Henry and Florrie in St James at Rounds Green, but I never looked for buriels. I'll put a report together from what I have on my personal family tree and send it to you, but I think it might be the same information we shared a few years ago, apart from the information on the 1911 census. I haven't really done any work on this family since then, except for some bits when I added it to the BCC tree. Have you been in touch with Katharine - she might have more information.

I can find a marriage or death for Joseph, but there are gaps in the area after 1920 on West Midlands BMD. You could try looking though the Oldbury/West Bromwich marriages at Sandwell after 1924 when Joseph would have been 18. The problem looking for a death for him is that there are so many Joseph Harvey's and he might not have died in the West Bromwich area.

Good Luck - Maggie

Possible

HARVEY, Joseph married HAMER, Catherine
West Bromwich Staffordshire
Jan-Feb-Mar 1928
Volume No 6B
Page No 928

or this one??

HARVEY, Joseph H married BIDDLE, Elizabeth
West Bromwich Staffordshire
Oct-Nov-Dec 1929
Volume No 6B
Page No 1710

as antie em says Val think you need to explore some of the marriages or burials

don't think we can do much more on this one

so flagging now to archive

elizabeth and eliza are not harveys they are florences sister hill there were put on the 1901 cenus by mistake and that is why yhere are crossed out