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Northern Lass wrote:and look at this!

1872
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
DEARN James Oldbury Sandwell Register Office OLD/48/85


will post thison the tromans

BINGO-O-O-O-O

putting this as a sticky so I can go thru it

that dob for Clara is out though isnt it
b 1855
but on census and marriage it fluctuates

Have put a note on re she may be a Clara Dearn

where is she in 1861 is that her and age is wrong
1861 Birmingham Street, Oldbury
DEARN, Thomas Head Unmarried M 30 1831 Grinder Halesowen Worcestershire
DEARN, Susannah Sister Unmarried F 28 1833 Halesowen Worcestershire
DEARN, Sarah Sister F 33 1828 Halesowen Worcestershire
DEARN, Ann Niece F 7 1854 Oldbury Worcestershire
DEARN, Frances Catherine Niece F 5 1856 Oldbury Worcestershire
DEARN, Clara Niece F 0 (9M) 1861 Oldbury Worcestershire

Northern Lass wrote:Have put a note on re she may be a Clara Dearn

where is she in 1861 is that her and age is wrong
1861 Birmingham Street, Oldbury
DEARN, Thomas Head Unmarried M 30 1831 Grinder Halesowen Worcestershire
DEARN, Susannah Sister Unmarried F 28 1833 Halesowen Worcestershire
DEARN, Sarah Sister F 33 1828 Halesowen Worcestershire
DEARN, Ann Niece F 7 1854 Oldbury Worcestershire
DEARN, Frances Catherine Niece F 5 1856 Oldbury Worcestershire
DEARN, Clara Niece F 0 (9M) 1861 Oldbury Worcestershire

I think Clara and Francis are in the wrong order, should be,

DEARN, Clara Niece F 5. 1856 Oldbury Worcestershire
DEARN, Frances Catherine Niece F 0 (9M) 1861. Oldbury Worcestershire.

West Midlands Birth 1855.
DEARN Clara, Oldbury Sandwell, Register Office. OLD/20/338.

West Midlands Birth 1860.
PARKES Frances C, Oldbury, Sandwell Register Office. OLD/28/106.

are they in the wrong order on image?

I think that then makes sense and I think that is our Clara mother of James

Northern Lass wrote:1861 Birmingham Street, Oldbury
DEARN, Thomas Head Unmarried M 30 1831 Grinder Halesowen Worcestershire
DEARN, Susannah Sister Unmarried F 28 1833 Halesowen Worcestershire
DEARN, Sarah Sister F 33 1828 Halesowen Worcestershire
DEARN, Ann Niece F 7 1854 Oldbury Worcestershire
DEARN, Frances Catherine Niece F 5 1856 Oldbury Worcestershire
DEARN, Clara Niece F 0 (9M) 1861 Oldbury Worcestershire

This is how it is on image.

Birth registered as Parkes, christened as Dearn.

Frances Catherine Durn.
Baptism/Christening Date 30 Jul 1862.
Baptism/Christening Place Oldbury,Worcester.
Mother's Name Susanna Durn.

Thanks Jimmy

Jimmy wrote:Marriage and 1901 census puts her birth about 1850-51. 1891 puts her birth at 1848.

1901. Oldbury.
George Harvey 50. Blacksmith.
Clara Harvey 50. Oldbury.
Edwin Harvey 23.
Herbert Harvey 20.
Arthur Harvey 12.
Samuel Harvey 10.
Clara Harvey 8.
Emily Harvey 6.

The ages are all over the place George should have been closer to 60 than 50. He shows up as 71 in 1911.

Antie Em wrote:

Northern Lass wrote:and look at this!

1872
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
DEARN James Oldbury Sandwell Register Office OLD/48/85


will post thison the tromans

BINGO-O-O-O-O

So are you saying my Grandfather James Harvey was actually born as James Dearn the illigitimate son of Clara Dearn/Parkes. Then when Clara married George in 1880 his name changed to Harvey ?? If true then this is as far back as I can follow the Harvey name as George the blacksmith is not my biological Great grandfather.

Dont like to throw a spanner in the works but have you seen this

Births Sep 1872
DEARN James W.Bromwich 6b 709

Deaths Dec 1873
DEARN James 1 W Bromwich 6b 434

kdw wrote:Dont like to throw a spanner in the works but have you seen this

Births Sep 1872
DEARN James W.Bromwich 6b 709

Deaths Dec 1873
DEARN James 1 W Bromwich 6b 434

I have emailed the regis office re the James Harvey ones in 1871 Oldbury

and the 1872 one above...but this now looks not like one for us....

not heard back yet


really need to explore the births for a James Harvey or Parkes
he may or may not be the son of Clara Dearn or Clara Parkes

We know that George married Clara Parkes

one of the kids births should give you her name she may be down as Parkes or Dearn on it

this is only what I think you have to decide what you think
and unfortunately it may involve buying some certifs

We still have the Tromans thread open for James Harvey b abt 1871/2
so think we close this Clara one off now and run with James Harvey on that one

will change title of it too.
Have added in as footnote that death for a James Dearn
so this may be another Clara with a mother who marries a John Parkes

the age on our Clara that marries George Harvey doesnt match this 1855 one
Clara that marries George is b abt 1848

going to lock this one now but leave it here for ref to a Clara Dearn

anything to do with James Harvey now pls use the other thread
entitled James Harvey query /Tromans

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