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Re: Phyllis Bowater b abt 1845
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 4:28 pm
by Jimmy
Comfort Siviter.
Baptism/Christening Date 17 Sep 1854.
Baptism/Christening Place Rowley-Regis, Stafford.
Father's Name Matthew Siviter.
Mother's Name Ada Siviter.
Comfort Siviter.
Baptism/Christening Date 27 Jul 1856.
Baptism/Christening Place Rowley-Regis, Stafford
Birth Date 14 Oct 1852.
Father's Name Thomas Siviter.
Mother's Name Mary Siviter.
Re: Phyllis Bowater b abt 1845
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 5:23 pm
by Jimmy
Jimmy wrote:1901. 27 Rowley Village, Rowley Regis.
Phyliss Tromans 60. Widow. Nailmaker.
Edith Tromans 28.
Samuel Tromans 21.
Edward Hartlebury 13. Grandson.
I wonder if this is Phyliss's right age,
These are the only death reg's I can find.
Deaths Jun 1896
Sidaway Phyllis. 51. Dudley. 6c. 1.
Deaths Jun 1911.
Tromans Phyllis M. 70. Dudley. 6c. 8.
Re: Phyllis Bowater b abt 1845
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 5:24 pm
by Northern Lass
Jimmy wrote:1871. Rowley Regis.
Edward Tromans 39. Nailer.
Philis Tromans 28.
Harriot Tromans 7.
Thomas Tromans 5.
Hannah Tromans 3.
Mary Ann Tromans 2.
Edith Tromans 2 Weeks.
Comfort Suiter 15. Niece.
All born Rowley Regis.
Re: Phyllis Bowater b abt 1845
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 5:26 pm
by Northern Lass
that is interesting Jimmy
so it is looking more like Phyllis could be dau of Wm and Elizabeth married to Reuben Sidaway
age is good
other one may be b abt 1841?
Re: Phyllis Bowater b abt 1845
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 5:30 pm
by Northern Lass
I think comfort fits in here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =915651257is Edith Hughes sister to Phyllis
maybe second marriage for Phyllis
name Edith is in Phyllis kids
and
name Phylis in Ediths
Re: Phyllis Bowater b abt 1845
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 5:33 pm
by Northern Lass
Re: Phyllis Bowater b abt 1845
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 5:40 pm
by Northern Lass
1871 Rowley Village
Mathew Siviter Head 54 Miner b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Edith Siviter Wife 49 Nailer b. Worcs., Dudley
Jocie Siviter Daur 19 Nailer b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Simeon Siviter Son 16 Nailer b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Peter Hughes Nephew 12 Nailer b. Worcs., Dudley
Edwd Troman Grandson 9 b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Edward Tromans with them in 1871
is this son of Edward Tromans and Phyllis bowater
why is she bowater ?
is there a marriage?
Re: Phyllis Bowater b abt 1845
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 5:44 pm
by Northern Lass
Jimmy wrote:1881.
Edward TROMANS Head M Male 49 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Nail Maker
Phillis TROMANS Wife M Female 38 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Nail Maker
Harriet TROMANS Daur U Female 18 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Nail Maker
Thomas TROMANS Son U Male 15 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Labourer At Pottery
Edith TROMANS Daur Female 10 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Scholar
Caroline TROMANS Daur Female 8 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Scholar
Mathew TROMANS Son Male 6 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Scholar
Samuel TROMANS Son Male 1 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England
27 Rowley Village.
Rowley Regis, Stafford.
name Matthew is here too
Re: Phyllis Bowater b abt 1845
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 7:25 pm
by Northern Lass
rite where is Jimmy!
Jimmy you at the pub!!
why is she Bowater?
do you think that is Phyllis
I do
I can't see a marriage for her to a Bowater
1861 she is with family
very very odd
Re: Phyllis Bowater b abt 1845
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 7:38 pm
by Northern Lass
Here is marriage
Marriages Dec 1861
Adams Joseph Stourbridge 6c 271
Bowater Phillis Stourbridge 6c 271
Mason Letitia Stourbridge 6c 271
Tromans Edward Stourbridge 6c 271
Re: Phyllis Bowater b abt 1845
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:02 pm
by Jimmy
Northern Lass wrote:1871 Rowley Village
Mathew Siviter Head 54 Miner b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Edith Siviter Wife 49 Nailer b. Worcs., Dudley
Jocie Siviter Daur 19 Nailer b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Simeon Siviter Son 16 Nailer b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Peter Hughes Nephew 12 Nailer b. Worcs., Dudley
Edwd Troman Grandson 9 b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Edward Tromans with them in 1871
is this son of Edward Tromans and Phyllis bowater
why is she bowater ?
is there a marriage?
There is this one.
Matthew Siveter.
Bride's Name Edith Hughes.
Marriage Date 07 Nov 1836.
Marriage Place Saint Thomas,Dudley,Worcester.
Re: Phyllis Bowater b abt 1845
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:17 pm
by Jimmy
1851. Tiperty Green, Rowley Regis.
Mallhew Lewter 36. Siviter on image.
Alice Lewter 32.
Ann Lewter 12.
Phelps Lewter 10. Phillis on image.
Septinas Lewter 8.
Matthews Lewter 5.
Ellen Lewter 3.
Richard Lewter 1.
All born Rowley Regis.
1861. Rowley Regis.
Mathew Siveter 40. Coal miner.
Eva Siveter 40. Dudley.
Phebe Matilda Siveter 20. Phebe on image.
Septimus Siveter 17.
Mathew Siveter 16.
Ellen Siveter 14.
Richard Siveter 12.
Ivias Siveter 10.
Comfort Siveter 8.
Simeon Siveter 6.
Re: Phyllis Bowater b abt 1845
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:26 pm
by Jimmy
Births Mar 1841.
Siviter Phillis. Dudley. 18. 299.
West Midlands Birth 1841.
SIVITER Phillis. Rowley Regis. Sandwell Register Office. RR/3/483.
Phillis Matilda Siveter.
Baptism/Christening Date 21 Mar 1841.
Baptism/Christening Place St. Thomas', Dudley, Worcester.
Birth Date 05 Jan 1841.
Father's Name Matthew Siveter.
Mother's Name Edith Siveter.
Re: Phyllis Bowater b abt 1845
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:39 pm
by Northern Lass
Do you think that is her Jimmy?
Re: Phyllis Bowater b abt 1845
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:43 pm
by Jimmy
Northern Lass wrote:1871 Rowley Village
Mathew Siviter Head 54 Miner b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Edith Siviter Wife 49 Nailer b. Worcs., Dudley
Jocie Siviter Daur 19 Nailer b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Simeon Siviter Son 16 Nailer b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Peter Hughes Nephew 12 Nailer b. Worcs., Dudley
Edwd Troman Grandson 9 b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Edward Tromans with them in 1871
is this son of Edward Tromans and Phyllis bowater
why is she bowater ?
is there a marriage?
If it is her, why did she marry as a Bowater, I can't see a marriage.