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Re: Hello all from Canada

Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 10:15 pm
by Jimmy
Births Jun 1876.
Groutage Mary Elizabeth. Penkridge. 6b. 557.

Re: Hello all from Canada

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 4:21 pm
by pam
Thank you so much for all the new information. I did have quite a bit of info from Sask. vital statistics where they settled. But did not have info on their immigration dates. So it would appear that perhaps Jabel was married before in Nottingham. Immigrated to Canada later and then met Mary Groutage after she immigrated in 1895. The plot thickens.

Re: Hello all from Canada

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 5:19 pm
by Jimmy
They were still here 5 April 1891. (census day)

1891. 3 Church St, Conisbrough, Yorkshire.
Samuel Thos Grontage 38. Fruit Merchant. Brownhills, Staffordshire.
Elizabeth Ann Grontage 36. Willinghall, Staffordshire.
Charles James Grontage 16.Heath Hags, Staffordshire.
Mary Elizabeth Grontage 14. Heath Hags, Staffordshire. Heath Hays.
Ruth Elly Grontage 6. Conisbrough, Yorkshire.
Arthur Goodlad 18. Boarder.

Re: Hello all from Canada

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 5:27 pm
by Jimmy
Could be Mary's father Samuel, living alone.

Samuel T Grontage.
Gender: Male.
Marital Status: Married.
Age: 48.
Birth Day & Month: 17 Oct
Birth Year: 1852.
Birthplace: England.

Relation to Head of House: Head.
Immigration Year: 1891.
Racial or Tribal Origin: English.
Nationality: Canadian.
Religion: Methodist.
Occupation: Farmer.
Province: The Territories.
District: Assiniboia (East/est).
District Number: 203.
Sub-District: Crescent.
Sub-District Number: U-1.
Neighbors: View others on page.
Household Members:
Samuel T Grontage 48. Head. Immigration year 1891.

Re: Hello all from Canada

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 10:52 pm
by pam
Thank you all for filling in a lot of the blanks.
Mary's father Samuel GROUTAGE could have come over first to Crescent Lake, SK. Family followed. Then Mary met Jabel and married. Most of their children were born in Crescent Lake. SK.
Wonder what happened to Jabel's first wife?

Re: Hello all from Canada

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:38 am
by Jimmy
Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935.
Name: Sam Granlage.
Gender: Male.
Age: 38.
Estimated birth year: abt 1853.
Date of Arrival: 6 Sep 1891.
Vessel: Circassian.
Search Ship Database: View the 'Circassian' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database.
Port of Arrival: Quebec and Montreal, Quebec.
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England; Londonderry, Ireland.
Roll: C-4538.

Re: Hello all from Canada

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:55 am
by Jimmy
1911.
Samuel Grostage.
Gender: Male.
Marital Status: Married.
Age: 52.
Birth Date: Oct 1858.
Birthplace: England.
Relation to Head of House: Head.
Immigration Year: 1891.
Tribal: English.
Province: Saskatchewan.
District: Saltcoats.
District Number: 215.

1911.
Samuel Grostage 52. Head. Farmer.
Edmund Russell 13. Grandson.
Dorothy Russell 14. Grandaughter.

Re: Hello all from Canada

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:56 am
by Northern Lass
Moving this thread to General Discussion :wink:

Re: Hello all from Canada

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 4:10 pm
by Jimmy
Jimmy wrote:Possible.
1861. 4 Portland Place. Nottinghamshire.
John Russell 29. Joiner.
Mary Russell 28.
John Russell 6.
William Russell 5.
Jabel Russell 3.

All born Nottinghamshire.


It looks like John as remarried,

1871. Nottingham.
John Russell 39. Joiner.
Rebecca Russell 39.
John Russell 17.
William Russell 16.
Jabe Russell 14.
Mark Russell 4.
Elmond Russell 2 Years, 6 Months. Edmond.
Mary Russell 6 Months.

Re: Groutage family.........Hello all from Canada

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 4:15 pm
by Jimmy
1881.
John RUSSILL Head M Male 49 Nottingham, England Retired Builder.
Rebecca RUSSILL Wife M Female 49 Nottingham, England.
Mark RUSSILL Son U Male 14 Nottingham, England Grocers Apprentice.
Edmund RUSSILL Son U Male 12 Nottingham, England Scholar.
Mary RUSSILL Daur U Female 10 Nottingham, England Scholar.
Harriett RUSSILL Daur U Female 7 Nottingham, England Scholar.
Rebecca RUSSILL Daur U Female 5 Nottingham, England Scholar.

Bunting Build.
Carlton, Nottingham.

Re: Groutage family.........Hello all from Canada

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 4:20 pm
by Jimmy
1901.
John Russell.
Gender: Male.
Marital Status: Married.
Age: 69.
Birth Day & Month: 1 Sep.
Birth Year: 1831.
Birthplace: England.
Relation to Head of House: Head.
Immigration Year: 1884.
Racial or Tribal Origin: English.
Nationality: Canadian.
Religion: Church Of England.
Occupation: Farmer.
Province: The Territories.
District: Assiniboia (East/est).
District Number: 203.
Sub-District: Crescent.
Sub-District Number: U-1.

Household Members:
John Russell 69.
Rebecca Russell 70.
Harriet Russell 27.

At the bottom of the same page.

Samuel T Grontage.
Gender: Male.
Marital Status: Married.
Age: 48
Birth Day & Month: 17 Oct.
Birth Year: 1852.
Birthplace: England.
Relation to Head of House: Head.
Immigration Year: 1891.
Racial or Tribal Origin: English.
Nationality: Canadian.
Religion: Methodist.
Occupation: Farmer.
Province: The Territories.
District: Assiniboia (East/est).
District Number: 203.
Sub-District: Crescent.
Sub-District Number: U-1.

Household Members:
Samuel T Grontage. 48.

Re: Groutage family.........Hello all from Canada

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 4:27 pm
by Jimmy
John and family together, no Jabel.

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935.
John Russell.
Gender: Male.
Age: 53.
Estimated birth year: abt 1831.
Date of Arrival: 1 May 1884.
Vessel: Peruvian.
Port of Arrival: Quebec, Quebec.
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England.
Roll: C-4533.

Re: Groutage family.........Hello all from Canada

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 1:34 pm
by Jimmy
Registration Number: 1314.
Last Name: RUSSELL.
First Name: SAMUEL EDMUND.
Sex: M.
Birth Date (yyyy/mm/dd): 1898 / 5 / 12.
Place of Birth: SASKATCHEWAN.
Mother. MARY ELIZABETH GEONTAPE.
Father. JABAL RUSSELL.

Registration Number: 6611.
Last Name: RUSSELL.
First Name: RUTH ELLEN.
Sex: F.
Birth Date (yyyy/mm/dd): 1907 / 4 / 5.
Place of Birth: YORKTON.
Mother. MARY ELIZABETH GRONTAGE.
Father. JABAL RUSSELL.

Last Name: RUSSELL.
First Name: JOHN WILLIAM.
Sex: M.
Birth Date (yyyy/mm/dd): 1904 / 4 / 25.
Place of Birth: YORKTON.
Mother. MARY ELIZABETH GROUTAGE (RUSSELL).
Father. JABEL RUSSELL.

Re: Groutage family.........Hello all from Canada

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 8:13 pm
by pam
Thank you so much Jimmy for all the information. It is helping me so much.
I'm so new to this and don't know where to start.

Re: Groutage family.........Hello all from Canada

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 9:00 pm
by Jimmy
Hi Pam,
Let us know how you get on, or any other problems you have.