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Re: Burial Location for Rebecca Foley - help/advice please
Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 11:20 pm
by adriatikfan
Thank you again for your help.
I also have details of the family from 1861, 1851 and 1841 but I must call it a day now. I will put those details up tomorrow.
Best Wishes
David
Re: Burial Location for Rebecca Foley - help/advice please
Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 11:22 pm
by mallosa
adriatikfan wrote:MG - that's the one. Mistranscriptions everywhere. Thank you so much!
When her dayghter Phoebe married, the surname Foley is recorded as Farley!!!
The address on the 1911 census is:
133 Vicarage Road, Wednesbury with
Emma Hale F 62 Widow as head of House.
Many thanks for your support and interest - it is very much appreciated!
Best Wishes
David
Marriages Jun 1875
FARLEY Phoebe W. Bromwich 6b 1019
HALL Jesse W. Bromwich 6b 1019 HARPER Henry W. Bromwich 6b 1019
Hicks Sarah W. Bromwich 6b 1019
Re: Burial Location for Rebecca Foley - help/advice please
Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 11:57 pm
by mallosa
Maths girl wrote:
1911 133 Vicarage Road Wednesbury
HALE, Emma Head Widow F 62 1849 Staffs Sedgeley
HALE, Albert Son Single M 30 1881 Labourer Carter Staffs West Bromwich
HALE, Maria Daughter Single F 24 1887 Staffs West Bromwich
FOLEY, Rebeca Daughter (says Boarder on original) Widow F 91 1820 Warwickshire K N Crossed out is married for 72 years - would that make sense?
WILLETS, Elijah Boarder Single M 28 1883 Labourer Carter Worcestershire K N
FISHER, Edward Boarder Married M 25 1886 Tube Lobourer Staffs Wednesbury
FISHER, Josephine Boarder Married 1 years F 22 1889 Staffs West Bromwich
FISHER, Edward Boarder M 0 (5 MONTH) 1911 Staffs Wednesbury
1901: 1 in 2 Crt, Church Street, WednesburyJohn Hale 54 Head Lab Tuckbury, Staffs
Emma Hale 51 Wife Wife
Albert Hale 20 Son
Eliza Hale 17 Dau
Maria Hale 14 Dau
Josephine Hale 11 Dau
Marriages Dec 1869
Foley Emma West Bromwich 6b 1123
HALE John West Bromwich 6b 1123 Partridge Elizabeth West Bromwich 6b 1123
Stevens James W Bromwich 6b 1123
Re: Burial Location for Rebecca Foley - help/advice please
Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 7:50 pm
by adriatikfan
So, here is the family in 1841:
Dark Lane, Sedgley, Wolverhampton , Staffs.,
Edward Foley (age 20), Labourer
Rebecca Foley (age 20) NB - one of these ages is incorrect, Edward is 6 years older than Rebecca, nee Reeves, born 1821
Mary Ann Foley (age 3)
Maria Foley (age 9 months)
I thought I had them in 1851 but having just gone to my records it appears I don't after all. Will get back to you.
Best Wishes
David
Re: Burial Location for Rebecca Foley - help/advice please
Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 9:44 pm
by mallosa
Well I can't find them in 1851
just to recap....
1861:
Edward Foley
Age: 43
Estimated birth year: abt 1818
Relation: Boatman Master (Master) Gender: Male
Where born: Badley, Worcestershire, England
Civil parish: Vessels
County/Island: Staffordshire
Registration district: Cheadle
Sub-registration district: Ipstones
ED, institution, or vessel: Rifle Man
with him are...
Eliza Foley 17 Boatmans Dau
Emma Foley 13 BOatmans Dau
Phoebe Foley 7 Boatmans Dau
Joseph Foley 5 Boatmans Son
(all born Dudley, Worc)
Re: Burial Location for Rebecca Foley - help/advice please
Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 10:02 pm
by adriatikfan
In June 1851 when Kezia is born the family appears to be living in 'Deepfield Square' , Coseley, Sedgley.
But I can't find them in 1851 either They must be there somewhere though!
Best Wishes
David
Re: Burial Location for Rebecca Foley - help/advice please
Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 10:13 pm
by adriatikfan
In 1861 Kezia(h) is listed with her big sister as follows:
at Broad Lane, Sedgley
Stephen Rhodes b 1837 Sedgley Puddler
Mary A Rhodes b 1838 Dudley wife
Matthew Rhodes b 1859 Sedgley son Engin Man
Kezia Foley b 1851 Sedgley visitor
Source RG9/2053 Folio 111
Mary Ann Foley married Stephen Rhodes in March 1857 (6c 123)
Best Wishes
David
Re: Burial Location for Rebecca Foley - help/advice please
Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 10:20 pm
by adriatikfan
In 1851 Mary Ann Foley (aged 13) is listed as a 'servant' with the Smith Family in Foleshill Warwickshire (where her mother Rebecca, nee Reeves was born in 1821)
Samuel Smith 40
Maria Smith 41
David Smith 19
John Smith 13
Ann Smith 7
Emma Smith 2
Hannah Spencer 50
Mary Ann Foley 13
Best Wishes
David
Re: Burial Location for Rebecca Foley - help/advice please
Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 12:03 am
by mallosa
So where are Edward and Rebecca in 1851?
Perhaps the nightshift will have more luck
Re: Burial Location for Rebecca Foley - help/advice please
Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 7:23 pm
by adriatikfan
I spent several hours on this last night and anoyjer hour now.
All I can think of is that there has been a serious transcription error.
The family is good at registering births and deaths Rebecca would have been mid yo late pregnancy with Kezia at the time of the census. There would be no reason for them not to have been recorded.
I have tried what I think might be the most obvious errors - perhaps it's time to be a bit more creative. I just don't know how at the moment!
Many thanks everyone for looking.
Best Wishes
David
Re: Burial Location for Rebecca Foley - help/advice please
Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 12:02 am
by mallosa
I've also spent ages, I've tried every combination I can think of and still nothing
Re: Burial Location for Rebecca Foley - help/advice please
Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 10:22 pm
by adriatikfan
Well - I'm still struggling with this.
Is it possible to search the 1851 census by location. We know where they are resident in June of that year?
Best Wishes
David
Re: Burial Location for Rebecca Foley - help/advice please
Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 10:52 pm
by Maths girl
adriatikfan wrote:Well - I'm still struggling with this.
Is it possible to search the 1851 census by location. We know where they are resident in June of that year?
Best Wishes
David
Yes it is Coseley appears to be around enumeration district 24/25 (maybe a few before and a few after) in the district of Sedgeley in 1851.
Too tired and internet connection is too iffy to let me look all through for you tonight.
Re: Burial Location for Rebecca Foley - help/advice please
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 11:00 pm
by adriatikfan
Thank you - I've just gone through the enumeration districys (learned something new again tonight - thank you!)
Enumeration districts 24 - 34 inclusive cover Coseley. Just got to track down 'Deepfields Square' now.
On modern maps, there is no actual place 'Deepfields Square', merely an area called 'Deepfields'. I do hope that's not another obstacle.
Best Wishes
David
Re: Burial Location for Rebecca Foley - help/advice please
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 9:05 am
by Northern Lass
are we ok to archive this now?
Flagging to archive