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grangers14 wrote:Q is father JOhn Harris poss first marr
1850.
HARRIS Andrew, MILLS Ann M, Dudley, St Thomas. Dudley Register Office. 204/010/97.
if it is bring back thread

15 Apr 1850. St Thomas Dudley
Andrew HARRIS- 21- B- Labourer- Dudley- Father John Harris- Labourer
Ann Maria MILLS- 19- S- Dudley- Father Joseph Mills- Labourer
Wit; Henry Parish Sarah Bradley X

So that works doesnt it

it isnt the one I flagged initially
it is a new family that needs adding to BCC
that is his first marriage above

and this is his second
11 Feb 1866 St Thomas Dudley
Andrew Harris 38 widower gas fitter Dudley John Harris labourer
Mary Ann Benson 29 spinster Dudley Thomas Benson dead labourer
banns
Andrew signed/ X Mary Ann
Wit- John Baker X / X Mary Jane Baker

grangers14 wrote:

This looks like the one on BCC,
1871. Rowley Regis.
Andrew Harris. 27. Labourer. Halesowen
Mary Harris. 32. Belbroughton.
Elizabeth Buiners. 10. Step dau. could be Benson on image.
Thomas Harris. 5. Son.
Mary Harris. 5. Dau.
Joseph Harris. 3. Son.

Could this go with this marriage? Binner instead of Buiners?
Marriages Jun 1866
BINNER Mary Stourbridge
6c 309

Darby Fanny Stourbridge
6c 309

Harris Andrew Stourbridge
6c 309

Harris Samuel Stourbridge
6c 309

this is another family
ie the one on bcc

the one we have marriage for I think is the gasfitter one
he marries ann maria
then
Mary

??
1861. Gannon Green, Bromsgove
James Hill, head, 26, Ag Lab, bromsgove
Mary A Banner, -, 24, Bellbroughton
John Banner, son, 2, Halesowen
Alfred, son, 3 months, Bromsgrove

FreeBMD
Births Mar 1861
Banner Alfred Hill Bromsgrove 6c 412

Births Mar 1859
BANNER John Hill Bromsgrove 6c 414

grangers14 wrote:

This looks like the one on BCC,
1871. Rowley Regis.
Andrew Harris. 27. Labourer. Halesowen
Mary Harris. 32. Belbroughton.
Elizabeth Buiners. 10. Step dau. could be Benson on image.
Thomas Harris. 5. Son.
Mary Harris. 5. Dau.
Joseph Harris. 3. Son.

Could this go with this marriage? Binner instead of Buiners?
Marriages Jun 1866
BINNER Mary Stourbridge
6c 309

Darby Fanny Stourbridge
6c 309

Harris Andrew Stourbridge
6c 309

Harris Samuel Stourbridge
6c 309

agreed that would match the Harriet on census in 1881

so 2 diff couples

agreed that would match the Harriet on census in 1881

What Harriet?

This one

1881. Gosty Hill No 30. Rowley Regis, Stafford
Andrew HARRIS Head M Male 41 Halesowen, Worcester, England General Labourer
Mary HARRIS Wife M Female 43 Belbroughton, Worcester, England Nail Forger
Thomas HARRIS Son U Male 14 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Nail Forger
Mary HARRIS Other Female 14 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Scholar
Joseph HARRIS Son Male 13 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Scholar
Frederick HARRIS Son Male 9 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Scholar
Sarah HARRIS Daur Female 6 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Scholar
Eliza HARRIS Daur Female 4 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Scholar
Harriet BIRMER Boarder U Female 25 Belbroughton, Worcester, England Domestic Servant


on this link
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =963431563

I am adding that marriage you found to this one

but the 2 marriages I looked up are for a diff Andrew Harris

he needs adding with 2 wives

do you fancy adding that one?

Yep I'll add him!

Yeh look!
Its Hepsebeth not Elizabeth

Hepsebeth Binner
Year of Registration: 1860
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Bromsgrove
County: Hereford and Worcester, Shropshire, Staffordshire, Worcestershire
Volume: 6c
Page: 401

1861. Bellbroughton.
William Binner, head, 56, ag lab, Much Wenlock
Mary, wife, 45, Bromsgrove
Mary, daur, 21, Bromsgrove
William, son, 19, Nailor, Bromsgrove
Emanuel, son, 17, Nailor,
Jane, daur, 14, nailor,
Eliza, daur, 10,
Harriet, daur, 6,
Hepsebeth, daur in law, 11 months
All others born Bellbroughton

EPSABETH BINNER.
Christening, 28 JUN 1857, Catshill, Worcester.
Parents:
WILLIAM BINNER.
MARY.

1891. Gorsty Hill.
Andrew Harris 33. 53. on image.
Mary Harris 54.
Joseph Harris 23.
Terah Harris 18.
Elisa Harris 14.

West Midlands Marriage 1881.
BINNER Hepseebeth, HARVEY William, Blackheath, St Paul, Dudley Register Office, 012/001/448,

MARY BINNER.
Christening, 20 MAR 1838, Bromsgrove, Worcester
Parents:
WILLIAM BINNER.
MARY.

Andrew Harris added here, census and children.
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =469579584
I have added Ann Marias death as an estimate from FreeBMD records as 1863.
There is Mary born abt 1863, wonder if she died in child birth or soon after? So have added that as last child for them.
Andrew re marries 1866 so children from then have added as Marys

There was another Hepsebeth born in 1857.
May be Mary named her child after her sister? The one in the census says 11 months in 1861 so that would go with the child on the census when Mary is with Andrew 1871 and she is as step daur.
I cant see what happend with the other one?
Jo

Is this all on now can we archive?

flagging to archive