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cid · Post by **cid** » Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:48 pm

extracted

Hilda Gladys Salt

Birth: 12 FEB 1891

Christening: 12 APR 1891 Aston, , Warwick, England

Father: Harry Salt
Mother: Mary

Freom Free BMD

Marriages Mar 1890

CLARK Mary Russell Aston 6d 277
SALT Harry Aston 6d 277

No clues there :roll:

peterd · Post by **peterd** » Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:52 pm

2nd mar ?

Marriages Mar 1890

CLARK Mary Russell Aston 6d 277
SALT Harry Aston 6d 277

poss 1st mar mary william sister from 1881 census ?

TRUMAN Mary R CLARK John W 1884 Tipton, St Martin (Pepper Box) West Midlands Sandwell Register Office 39/14/282

cid · Post by **cid** » Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:56 pm

1901 432, Witton Road, Aston Manor

SALT, Mary R Head Widow F 36 1865 Dress Maker Dudley Park Staffordshire
CLARK, Gertrude Daughter F 15 1886 Ammunition Worker Aston Warwickshire
SALT, Hilda G Daughter F 10 1891 Aston Warwickshire
CHAPLIN, Maria Servant Single F 41 1860 House Keeper Domestic Bgham Warwickshire
GAUNTLETH, Frederick G Boarder Single M 22 1879 Rubber Cycle Tube Maker Trowbridge

Looks like Mary was married before

Marriages Mar 1884

Bannister John Dudley 6c 151
Clark John William Dudley 6c 151
Green Selina Dudley 6c 151
TRUMAN Mary Russell Dudley 6c 151

So it looks like Hilda Gladys Salt was William Trumans neice

maureen41 · Post by **maureen41** » Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:47 pm

Can i say a great big THANK YOU for all the hard work people are doing regarding the Tromans I am trying to get as much information as I can on both sides of the family for my Grand-daughter so she will know as much about her ancestors as possible.
My paternal Grandfather came from Ireland so have only gone back three generations on that side but the others I have done quite well with.
I am now doing her fathers side and boy have I got stuck. One of her ancestors change his name which lead to a lot of confusion and now I have the Tromans.
But I have received such a lot of information which I can enter.
once again many thanks for all your hard searching
Mo.

peterd · Post by **peterd** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:12 pm

peterd wrote:2nd mar ?

Marriages Mar 1890

CLARK Mary Russell Aston 6d 277
SALT Harry Aston 6d 277

poss 1st mar mary william sister from 1881 census ?

TRUMAN Mary R CLARK John W 1884 Tipton, St Martin (Pepper Box) West Midlands Sandwell Register Office 39/14/282

got this first marriage back

28 Jan 1884 St Martin (Pepper Box) Tipton
John William CLARK 21 B Clerk Tipton Father William Clark Labourer

Mary Russell TRUMAN 20 S Tipton Father William Truman Labourer

Wit; Daniel Bennett Betsy Hayden

so mary father was a william can anyone find the 1871 census with mary and father and poss brother william

maureen41 · Post by **maureen41** » Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:52 am

Hve managed to find on Family search a William and a Mary Russell both born to William and Ann Maria Trueman so think I can take it that this is William's Father and Mother thanks for help another step back, now to try even further.
Can this information go on your site!!

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:44 am

peterd wrote:hi mureen and welcome to the forum

here the marriage it will give you there father names on cert

WILLIAM TRUMAN
ELIZA DERBYSHIRE
Marriage: 21 JUL 1873 Sedgley, Stafford

First thanks to Rockyfowler for doing the look ups :wink:

Just going thru this
Will prob split to 2 topics

but we still need this marriage to see who father is for him
so that will be done soon

min...

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:47 am

WILLIAM TRUMAN
ELIZA DERBYSHIRE
Marriage: 21 JUL 1873 Sedgley, Stafford

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1881 Aston, Warwick,
William TRUEMAN 24 Dudley Port, Stafford, Bricklayer Laborer
Eliza TRUEMAN 23 Dudley Port, Stafford, Bricklayer Laborer Wife
Tilley TRUEMAN 6 Dudley Port, Stafford, Scholar
Annie TRUEMAN 4 Dudley Port, Stafford, Scholar
Comfort DERBYSHIRE Sister 18 Dudley Port, Stafford, Bullett Patcher
Martha DERBYSHIRE Aunt U 46 Bilston, Stafford, Housekeeper Dom
Paul FOULERTON Lodger 31 London, Middlesex, Metal Dipper
Mary TRUEMAN Visitor U 17 Dudley Port, Stafford, Dress Maker poss sister?

1891 3 House 11 Court, Mansfield Road, Aston, Aston Manor County:
Warwickshire
TRUEMAN, Wm Head Married M 36 1855 House Breaker
Dudley Port
TRUEMAN, Eliza Wife Married F 36 1855
Dudley Port
TRUEMAN, Lillian Daughter Single F 16 1875
Dudley Port
TRUEMAN, Annie A Daughter Single F 14 1877 Jewellery Solderer
Dudley Port
TRUEMAN, Mabel B Daughter Single F 0 (7M) 1891
Birmingham
BARKER, Coinford Boarder Widower M 27 1864 Press Worker
Dudley Port

1901 106 Holly Lane Erdington
TRUEMAN, William Head Married M 44 1857 Builders Laborer Dudley Staffordshire
TRUEMAN, Eliza Wife Married F 43 1858 Dudley Staffordshire
TRUEMAN, Mabel Daughter Single F 10 1891 Erdington Warwickshire

1911 106 Holly Lane

TRUEMAN, William Head Married M 58 1853 Own Account Milkman Burnton Tipton
TRUEMAN, Eliza Wife Married F 57 1854 Burnton Tipton
SALL, Hilda Gladys Niece Single F 20 1891 Press Worker In Factory Aston Bham
DAWSON, Benjamin Maud Boarder Single M 22 1889 Clerk In Factory Aston Bham

1911 1 X3 Moor End Lane Erdington
TRUEMAN, Lily Head Single F 36 1875 Grocer Dealers Dudley Port Bevenstead Sipton
TRUEMAN, Mabel Beatrice Sister Single F 20 1891 Assisting Hockley Maur
AIREY, Thomas Boarder Single M 52 1859 Erdington Cannal Workman Surrey Warwickshire

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:27 am

maureen41 wrote:Hve managed to find on Family search a William and a Mary Russell both born to William and Ann Maria Trueman so think I can take it that this is William's Father and Mother thanks for help another step back, now to try even further.
Can this information go on your site!!

Ok we need the info on this lot before anything is added to BCC
do we have William on BCC already?

We need the bapts posted for William Tromans b abt 1855 and sister mary Russell
and father William

and the census with them all on

There is this one on BCC
but no Mary
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =982571768

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:06 am

MARY RUSSELL TRUMANS
Birth: 30 JAN 1864

Christening: 20 MAR 1864 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: WILLIAM TRUMANS
Mother: ANN MARIA Extracted

WILLIAM TRUMANS Birth: 23 DEC 1853
Christening: 30 AUG 1857 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: WILLIAM TRUMANS
Mother: ANN MARIA Extracted

THOMAS TRUMANS Birth: 09 AUG 1857
Christening: 30 AUG 1857 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: WILLIAM TRUMANS
Mother: ANN MARIA
Extracted

JOSEPH TRUMAN
Birth: 06 APR 1860
Christening: 29 APR 1860 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: WILLIAM TRUMAN
Mother: ANN MARIA
Messages:
Extracted

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:45 am

Help!

I am struggling to find any of this family on census
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =576394520

and esp a William with kids Wm born about 1853 and Mary Russell Troman/s

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:53 am

There is this one but not sure

1851 Dudley Port Tipton
William Troman 27 labourer b Dudley
Ann Troman 25
James Troman 2

1861 Dudley Wood Tipton
William Troman 37 h m Labourer in Iron mines B Staffs Rowley
Ann M Troman 36
James Troman 13
Ann Troman 8
William Troman 7
Thomas Troman 3
Joseph Troman 1
all others born Tipton

maureen41 · Post by **maureen41** » Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:04 pm

I have looked through familysearch and can only find Mary and William Christenings. I thought William might have married someone with the name Russell with the name added to Mary but have looked through Free BDM and people search and have not found anything.
I wonder if they are down as tromans in the census?

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:30 pm

If those bapts are all sibs to our William born 1853 bapt 1857
then the tipton one fits

and is this a marriage
1850
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
TROMANS William SIDAWAY Maria Halesowen, St John the Baptist Dudley Register Office 014/002/103

Thomas and Wm bapt same day
we know Mary Russell is the sister of our Wm

and those ages fit the 1861 census

Jimmy · Post by **Jimmy** » Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:34 pm

1871. Rowley Village.
William Tromans 48. Quarry man. born Dudley.
Elizabeth Tromans 33.
William Tromans 13. Coalminer.
Thomas Tromans 7.
Abraham Tromans 1.
Sarah Somnell 77. Mother.

Others born Rowley Regis.

West Midlands Marriage . 1862.
TROWMANS William, PARKES Elizabeth. Dudley, St Thomas. Dudley Register Office. 204/020/412.

1861. Rowley Regis.
William Troman 36. Coalminer.
Eliza Troman 36.
Jeremiah Troman 17.
Joseph Tromans 4.
Sarah Tromans 9.
William Tromans 4.
Thomas Tromans 2.
Sarah Tromans 66. Mother.

1851. Tippetty Green.
William Tromans 27. Coalminer.
Eliza Tromans 26.
Hannah Tromans 4.
John Tromans 1.
Joseph Redfern 25. Inmate.
Mary Ann Redfern 21.
Thomas Redfern 1.

WILLIAM TROMANS.
ELIZA HILL.
Marriage. 28 SEP 1846. Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester.

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