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Re: Uncle Fred - where art thou!

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 6:23 pm
by gardener
Annie wrote:1911 Address search for School Street and the images all look clear , but still can't see Frederick. :(



Hi Annie
I was hoping for an address search in the 1891 census to see who was at:

43 or 45 School Lane, Castleton, Rochdale
and
104 Drake Street, Rochdale

Those are the addresses from 1881 and 1901 and School Lane seems to be a side road off Drake Street. Since the Spencer father is a shopkeeper in 1881 and his daughter Sarah is a confectioner in 1901 (sweet shop perhaps?) I wondered if these addresses could actually be the same, a corner shop perhaps which had an address change from the post office. So, my hope is that the Spencer/Winterbottom family were also there in 1891. I don't have Findmypast but it seems to be possible to search by address there.
If anyone could post details of a family on both street then I could look around and see if Fred is lurking there.

Re: Uncle Fred - where art thou!

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 8:55 pm
by gardener
Find my past has

1891 census
Ellen Winterbottom born 1845 (46 years old) living Rochdale

Can anybody post the details please?

Re: Uncle Fred - where art thou!

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 9:03 pm
by Annie
1891 census transcription details for: 11, Drake Street, Castleton, Rochdale
WINTERBOTTOM, John Head Married M 43 1848 Iron Moulder
Saddleworth
Yorkshire
WINTERBOTTOM, Ellen Wife Married F 46 1845
Rochdale
Lancashire
WINTERBOTTOM, James Son Single M 19 1872 Weaver Cotton
Rochdale
Lancashire
WINTERBOTTOM, Mary E Daughter Single F 12 1879
Rochdale
Lancashire
WINTERBOTTOM, Sarah Ann Daughter Single F 9 1882
Rochdale Lancashire


Annie

Re: Uncle Fred - where art thou!

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 9:12 pm
by Annie
Poss Ellen

1911 census transcription details for: 3 Bridgefield St Rochdale
LORD, Wilfrid Head Married M 31 1880 Labourer Spring Works Lancs Rochdale
LORD, Sarah Ann Wife Married
7 years F 28 1883 Intermediate Tenter Lancs Rochdale
LORD, Stanley Son M 6 1905 School Lancs Rochdale
WINTERBOTTOM, Ellen Mother In Law Widow F 68 1843 Lancs Rochdale


annie

Re: Uncle Fred - where art thou!

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 9:15 pm
by Annie
gardener wrote:
Annie wrote:1911 Address search for School Street and the images all look clear , but still can't see Frederick. :(



Hi Annie
I was hoping for an address search in the 1891 census to see who was at:

43 or 45 School Lane, Castleton, Rochdale
and
104 Drake Street, Rochdale

Those are the addresses from 1881 and 1901 and School Lane seems to be a side road off Drake Street. Since the Spencer father is a shopkeeper in 1881 and his daughter Sarah is a confectioner in 1901 (sweet shop perhaps?) I wondered if these addresses could actually be the same, a corner shop perhaps which had an address change from the post office. So, my hope is that the Spencer/Winterbottom family were also there in 1891. I don't have Findmypast but it seems to be possible to search by address there.
If anyone could post details of a family on both street then I could look around and see if Fred is lurking there.



Sorry Gardener just seen this post do you still want those details.

Annie

Re: Uncle Fred - where art thou!

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 9:16 pm
by gardener
Thanks Annie! they just seem to be missing from Ancestry.

Re: Uncle Fred - where art thou!

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 9:19 pm
by gardener
Annie wrote:Sorry Gardener just seen this post do you still want those details.

Annie


No, that is fine thanks. Guess Freddie was just forgotten!

Re: Uncle Fred - where art thou!

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 9:56 pm
by Maths girl
gardener wrote:
Maths girl wrote:
gardener wrote:I can't find Frederick in 1891, try as I will. I'm sure you have all these details already but I am posting them in case it helps someone find him in 1891 or 1911.


Just wondering whether as the family appear at the bottom of the page in the 1891 census book Frederick got missed off accidentally -- there is a spare line as though maybe he wanted to go and check something but then forgot to go back and fill it in!


Did you find the family in 1891? I can't find any of them :cry: Who is head of the household in that entry Mathsgirl?


1891 11, Drake Street, Castleton, Rochdale
WINTERBOTTOM, John Head Married M 43 1848 Iron Moulder Saddleworth Yorkshire
WINTERBOTTOM, Ellen Wife Married F 46 1845 Rochdale Lancashire
WINTERBOTTOM, James Son Single M 19 1872 Weaver Cotton Rochdale Lancashire
WINTERBOTTOM, Mary E Daughter Single F 12 1879 Rochdale Lancashire
WINTERBOTTOM, Sarah Ann Daughter Single F 9 1882 Rochdale Lancashire

Re: Uncle Fred - where art thou!

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 7:35 am
by David W
I have been reading with amazement all the efforts people are making on behalf of my search for Uncle Fred. The determination everyone is showing is very much appreciated and please all, accept our very grateful thanks and appreciation. It has certainly had us stumped as to what happened to him.

Thanks again

David

Re: Uncle Fred - where art thou!

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 7:53 am
by David W
I am deeply grateful to everyones efforts in trying to find the elusive Uncle Fred.

Could I ask for any suggestions please that I might take up locally to see if I can try and find where he went either geographically or perhaps died at a young age.

Many thanks once again

David

Re: Uncle Fred - where art thou!

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 4:59 pm
by peterd
try the local electrol list ?

Re: Uncle Fred - where art thou!

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 8:56 pm
by grangers14
Is this completed?
Jo :)