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Ok so that means that Sarah Jane Poole is dau of mary Ann Kibler
but
why does she put father as John
it should be William that a Mary Ann Kibler married in 1871

and

the wits on Mary Ann Kiblers marriage to Samuel Taylor are
Thomas Poole and Elizabeth Cornfield
is this her son?
or just friend of family

if that is Mary Ann Kibler dau of John Kibler in
1851 ....which looks good
is that her in
1861

in which case it cant be our Mary Ann on the 1861 census

and then question
is the Mary Ann on 1861 the Ann on the 1871

whoever cracks all this is a genius!!

Mary Anne Kibler.
Christening, 25 DEC 1840. Rowley Regis, Stafford.

Lavinia Kibler.
Christening, 22 APR 1849, Rowley Regis, Stafford.

John Kibler.
Christening, 29 MAY 1853, Rowley Regis, Stafford.

Parents to all,
John Kibler.
Hannah Kibler.

Mother remarries?
1858
WYNN William KILLER Hannah Oldbury, Christ Church Sandwell Register Office 12/1/487

1861
Whiteheath, Rowley
William Wynn 40 - Bricklayer
Hannah Wynn 40
Elizabeth Kilber 20 - Nailmaker
Ann Wynn 14 - Nailmaker
Lavinia Wynn 10
William Wynn 2
John Kibler 10 - grandson
all b Rowley

1871
Furance Row, Oldbury
William Wynn 48 - Bricklayer
Hannah Wynn 50
John Kibler Wynn 21 - Labourer
Watkin Wm Wynn 12 - b Oldbury
Montague Walter Wynn 6 - b Oldbury
others b Rowley

JOHN KIBLER.
HANNAH MORRIS.
Marriage, 22 DEC 1839, Old Swinford, Worcester.

1841. Reddall Hill.
John Cibbler 25. Coalminer.
Ann Cibbler 20.
Mary Cibbler 1.

FarSide wrote:

Northern Lass wrote:
Marriage added by Jan looked up at archives by RF
17 May 1891 Holy Trinity Oldbury
William Willetts 23 B Miner Park Lane Father William Willetts Miner
Sarah Jane Poole 19 S Park Lane Father John Poole Brick Maker
Wit; John Windmill /Susannah Cutler X

Poss Witness's - Lavinia from the 51 earlier post
1887
KIBBLER Susannah CUTLER Josiah Blackheath, St Paul Dudley Register Office 012/002/240

1889
KIBBLER Lavinia WINDMILL John Blackheath, St Paul Dudley Register Office 012/002/338

These are Elizabeth Kibblers daughters
1871 Furnace Row Oldbury
Enoch Warbeton Head 32 Coal Miner Born Oldbury
Elizabeth Warbeton Wife 30 Born Oldbury
Susannah Warbeton Daur. 7 Born Oldbury
Levina Warbeton Daur. 5 Born Oldbury
Peter Warbeton Son 2 Born Oldbury
Jane Goodwin Boarder W 76 Born Sheerness Kent


West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1868
KIBLER Elizabeth WARBURTON Enoch Oldbury, Christ Church Sandwell Register Office 12/2/238

kdw wrote:

FarSide wrote:

Northern Lass wrote:
Marriage added by Jan looked up at archives by RF
17 May 1891 Holy Trinity Oldbury
William Willetts 23 B Miner Park Lane Father William Willetts Miner
Sarah Jane Poole 19 S Park Lane Father John Poole Brick Maker
Wit; John Windmill /Susannah Cutler X

Poss Witness's - Lavinia from the 51 earlier post
1887
KIBBLER Susannah CUTLER Josiah Blackheath, St Paul Dudley Register Office 012/002/240

1889
KIBBLER Lavinia WINDMILL John Blackheath, St Paul Dudley Register Office 012/002/338

These are Elizabeth Kibblers daughters
1871 Furnace Row Oldbury
Enoch Warbeton Head 32 Coal Miner Born Oldbury
Elizabeth Warbeton Wife 30 Born Oldbury
Susannah Warbeton Daur. 7 Born Oldbury
Levina Warbeton Daur. 5 Born Oldbury
Peter Warbeton Son 2 Born Oldbury
Jane Goodwin Boarder W 76 Born Sheerness Kent


West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1868
KIBLER Elizabeth WARBURTON Enoch Oldbury, Christ Church Sandwell Register Office 12/2/238

like musical chairs seems a family trait to change their name.. marry under their mothers name instead of Warburton

Northern Lass wrote:

Jimmy wrote:Mary Anne Kibler.
Christening, 25 DEC 1840. Rowley Regis, Stafford.

Lavinia Kibler.
Christening, 22 APR 1849, Rowley Regis, Stafford.

John Kibler.
Christening, 29 MAY 1853, Rowley Regis, Stafford.

Parents to all,
John Kibler.
Hannah Kibler.

Odd cant find a regis birth for Mary Ann

25 Dec 1840
Mary Anne, d of John & Hannah Kibler, Reddal Hill, Miner

1851.
John Hibler 37. Coalminer. born: Borsall, Worcestershire.
Hannah Hibler 28. Rowley Regis.
Mary Ann Hibler 10.
Elizabeth Hibler 8.
Lovinia Hibler 2.
John Hibler 1 Mo.
Thomas Hipkiss 24. Inmate. Dudley.

Others born Rowley Regis.

12 Feb 1843
Elisabeth, d of John & Hannah, Waterfall Lane, Collier

15 Mar 1846
Clara, d of John & Hannah, Lye Cross, Miner
Bur 26 aug 1846
Clara Kibler, Turners Hill, 7 months, Bowel complaint

22 Apr 1849
Lavina, d of John & Hannah, Turners hill, Miner

Better still,
Births Dec 1840.
Cibbler Mary Ann. Dudley. 18. 296.

West Midlands Birth 1840.
CIBBLER Mary A, Rowley Regis, Sandwell Register Office, RR/3/357.

These are Elizabeth Kibblers daughters
1871 Furnace Row Oldbury
Enoch Warbeton Head 32 Coal Miner Born Oldbury
Elizabeth Warbeton Wife 30 Born Oldbury
Susannah Warbeton Daur. 7 Born Oldbury
Levina Warbeton Daur. 5 Born Oldbury
Peter Warbeton Son 2 Born Oldbury
Jane Goodwin Boarder W 76 Born Sheerness Kent


West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1868
KIBLER Elizabeth WARBURTON Enoch Oldbury, Christ Church Sandwell Register Office 12/2/238

Wonder who too
1864
KIBLER Susannah Oldbury Sandwell Register Office OLD/34/81

1866
KIBLER Lavinia Oldbury Sandwell Register Office OLD/38/57

Jimmy wrote:Better still,
Births Dec 1840.
Cibbler Mary Ann. Dudley. 18. 296.

West Midlands Birth 1840.
CIBBLER Mary A, Rowley Regis, Sandwell Register Office, RR/3/357.

just working thru this lot
brill find

more on Enoch Warburton
1851
Freeth? Street, Oldbury
Susanna Casman 30 - b Bosworth, Leicester (can't make out if married or not)
Enoch Warburton 15 - Coalminer - b Oldbury
John Smith 25 - Lodger - Cordwainer - b Duffield

1861
Furance Row, Oldbury
Susanna Cadman 47 - M or W? - b Birmingham
Enoch Worfeday 23 - Miner - b Oldbury
Jonah Cadman 9 - b Oldbury

I have added these marriages for look up
1864
KIBLER Susannah Oldbury Sandwell Register Office OLD/34/81

1866
KIBLER Lavinia Oldbury Sandwell Register Office OLD/38/57

So I will add that 1861 poss for Mary Ann to Mary Ann Kibler
so we have all the census which may or may not be here here

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =121036778


Can she be in 2 places on the 1861?

Why are that Thomas Poole and Elizabeth Cornfield wits at marriage of Samuel Taylor and Mary Anne Poole nee Kipler?
is it her son?
if it is her son that keys her to that 1861 although age is way off

I am going in circles