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kdw wrote:Still confused about this

2 Sept 1888 St Giles Rowley Regis
James Speake 39 bach Bricklayer Brads Village Father James Speake Bricklayer
Hannah Rowley 29 spin Brads Village Father John Rowley Brick Carrier
Wit; James Rowley X Harriet Rowley.

1901 23 Dudley Road Oldbury
James Speake Head 40 Bricklayer Born Quinton
Hannah Speake Wife 41 Born Cakemore
Gertrude Speake Daur. 10 Born America
James Fredk Speake Son 5 Born Brades Village
Lily May Speake Daur. 2 Born Brades Village
John Rowley Bro in Law Widr. 43 Labourer in Brickworks Born Cakemore
Harriett Rowley Daur. 9 Born America
Amphss Rowley Daur. 7 Born America
James Rowley Son 5 Born America

is this the right one on BCC for him
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =877141018

what the confusion ? looks poss for them to be the same person ? are you sure the 39 isnt 29 ?


1881.
James SPEAKE Head M Male 41 N K, Shropshire, England Bricklayer
Hannah SPEAKE Wife M Female 40 Bromsgrove, Worcester, England
James SPEAKE Son U Male 20 Halesowen, Worcester, England Bricklayer
Joseph SPEAKE Son U Male 19 Halesowen, Worcester, England Bricklayer
Fanny SPEAKE Daur U Female 13 Halesowen, Worcester, England Scholar
Sarah A. MILLS Step Daur U Female 12 Halesowen, Worcester, England Scholar
William SPEAKE Son U Male 10 Barrow In Furness, Lancashire, England Scholar
Lizzie MILLS Step Daur U Female 10 Halesowen, Worcester, England
George MILLS Step Son Male 7 Halesowen, Worcester, England Scholar
Walter SPEAKE Son Male 1 Halesowen, Worcester, England
Alfred B. SPEAKE Son Male 1 m Halesowen, Worcester, England
Soloman MORGAN Lodger U Female 32 Bromsgrove, Worcester, England Farm Laborer

In the same house.
1911. Oldbury.
SPEKE JAMES. M. 1861. 50.
SPEKE HANNAH. F. 1860. 51.
SPEKE GERTRUDE. F. 1891. 20. Born, UNITED STATES.
SPEKE FRED. M. 1896. 15.
SPEKE LILY. F. 1899. 12.

It looks like the son married Hannah Miles, nee Morgan, and the father married Hannah Rowley.

Jimmy wrote:It looks like the son married Hannah Miles, nee Morgan, and the father married Hannah Rowley.

I got that back to front I think.

kdw wrote:
2 Sept 1888 St Giles Rowley Regis
James Speake 39 bach Bricklayer Brads Village Father James Speake Bricklayer
Hannah Rowley 29 spin Brads Village Father John Rowley Brick Carrier
Wit; James Rowley X Harriet Rowley.

I think his age is out on this marriage. Should be 30.

yep that what i think jimmy the marriage age is out

Thanks Jimmy
Think im having a Blonde Day

Does this look right on BCC now
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =995805731

Looks good to me.

kdw wrote:Deaths Sep 1875
SPEAKE Lavinia 34 Stourbridge 6c 84

Good one kdw!

1851 (transcribed as 'Geronn')
At New Road, Quinton, Ridgeacre
William Grovner Head Family 31 Brick Layer b. Worcs., Halesowen
Emma Grovner Wife 28 Nail Forger b. Staffs., Beech Lane, Harborne
Lavina Grovner Daur 10 Scholar b. Do Do
John Grovner Son 6 Scholar b. Worcs., Quinton
Ada Matilda Grovner Daur 3 Scholar b. Worcs., Quinton
Jane Elisabeth Grovner Daur 1 b. Worcs., Quinton
Agnes Coley Visitor 8 Scholar b. Worcs., Quinton Correction: b. Worcs., Halley Green

Previous entry:
John Grovner Head Family 72 b. Worcs., Halesowen Blind
Elizabeth Grovner 71 b. Worcs., Cakemore
Joseph Grovner Son Unmarried 46 Shoemaker b. Norfolk, Norwich
Kezia Grovner Daur 27 Dressmaker b. Worcs., Halesowen
Sarah Grovner Granddaur 7 b. Worcs., Halesowen

Can some one check this out please,

1901.
Hannah Speke, age 59. 1842, born Worcester Bromsgrove, living in Bromsgrove, Worcestershire.

Jimmy wrote:Can some one check this out please,

1901.
Hannah Speke, age 59. 1842, born Worcester Bromsgrove, living in Bromsgrove, Worcestershire.

It looks like Hannah Speke is with her mother.

Basics.
1901, Bromsgrove.
Ann Morgan. 87. 1814. Living On Own Means.
Hannah Speke. 59. 1842.

Deaths Mar 1887.
Morgan Thomas. 71. Bromsgrove. 6c. 264.

Deaths Jun 1901.
Morgan Ann. 88. Bromsgrove. 6c. 212.

dianel wrote:

kdw wrote:Deaths Sep 1875
SPEAKE Lavinia 34 Stourbridge 6c 84

Good one kdw!

1851 (transcribed as 'Geronn')
At New Road, Quinton, Ridgeacre
William Gronvner Head Family 31 Brick Layer b. Worcs., Halesowen
Emma Gronvner Wife 28 Nail Forger b. Staffs., Beech Lane, Harborne
Lavina Gronvner Daur 10 Scholar b. Do Do
John Gronvner Son 6 Scholar b. Worcs., Quinton
Ada Matilda Gronvner Daur 3 Scholar b. Worcs., Quinton
Jane Elisabeth Gronvner Daur 1 b. Worcs., Quinton
Agnes Coley Visitor 8 Scholar b. Worcs., Quinton

Previous entry:
John Grovner Head Family 72 b. Worcs., Halesowen Blind
Elizabeth Grovner 71 b. Worcs., Cakemore
Joseph Grovner Son Unmarried 46 Shoemaker b. Norfolk, Norwich
Kezia Grovner Daur 27 Dressmaker b. Worcs., Halesowen
Sarah Grovner Granddaur 7 b. Worcs., Halesowen

Is this John Grosvenor already on BCC here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =819248433

1841 New Road Halesowen
John Groener 60 Nial Forger
Elisabeth Groener 60
Joseph Groener 30 Cordwainer
Harriiott Groener 25 Nail Forger
William Groener 20 Bricklayer
Kezia Groener 15 Nail Forger

Possible marriage for William
Marriages Dec 1843 (97%)
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Allen Ann Stourbridge 18 567
Barnes Henry Stourbridge 18 567
Bartlett Henry Stourbridge 18 567
Bennett Richard Stourbridge 18 567
Grosvenor William Stourbridge 18 567
Haines Ann Stourbridge 18 567
Haines Anne Stourbridge 18 567
Parkes Emma Stourbridge 18 567
TAYLOR Ann Stourbridge 18 567

Think i have added all the info here
James Speake
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =948582756

Hannha Morgan
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =119619014

Thomas Morgan
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =804047363

1861. Quinton,
GROVENOR,William,,head,M,M,41,,Bricklayer,,,WOR,Halesowen
GROVENOR,Emma,,wife,M,F,38,,Nail Maker,,,WOR,Halesowen
GROVENOR,John,,son,,M,15,,Bricklayer,,,WOR,Halesowen
GROVENOR,Ada,,dau,,F,13,,Nail Maker,,,WOR,Halesowen
GROVENOR,Elizabeth,,dau,,F,10,,Nail Maker,,,WOR,Halesowen
GROVENOR,William,,son,,M,8,,Scholar,,,WOR,Halesowen
GROVENOR,Henry,,son,,M,4,,Scholar,,,WOR,Halesowen
GROVENOR,Susannah,,dau,,F,12m,,,,,WOR,Halesowen

Next door.
PEAKE,James,,head,M,M,21,,Ag Labourer,,,WOR,Stourbridge
PEAKE,Levina,,wife,M,F,19,,Nail Maker,,,WOR,Halesowen
PEAKE,James,,son,,M,8m,,,,,WOR,Halesowen