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Re: Help trace London immigrant GGmother in 1800's
Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:36 pm
by Maths girl
Possible 1861
1861 Pyle Street, Newport
BUCKLER, Frances Head Widow F 58 1803 Grocer Newport Hampshire
JUPE, Jane Daughter Widow F 30 1831 Upholsterer Newport Hampshire
BUCKLER, Alfred Son M 14 1847 Porter At Agricultural Labourer Newport Hampshire
BUCKLER, Emma Daughter F 12 1849 Scholar Newport Hampshire
JUPE, Georgina Granddaughter F 8 1853 Scholar Newport Hampshire
JUPE, Isabella Granddaughter F 4 1857 Scholar Newport Hampshire
1851 Quay Street, Newport
BUCKLER, James Head Married M 46 1805 Miller Newport Isle of Wight
BUCKLER, Fanny Wife Married F 47 1804 Newport Isle of Wight
BUCKLER, Jane Daughter Unmarried F 20 1831 Dress Maker Newport Isle of Wight
BUCKLER, Richard Son M 12 1839 Scholar Newport Isle of Wight
BUCKLER, Alfred Son M 4 1847 Scholar Newport Isle of Wight
BUCKLER, Emma Daughter F 2 1849 Scholar Newport Isle of Wight
Re: Help trace London immigrant GGmother in 1800's
Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:03 pm
by peterd
Maths girl wrote:1871 Carlton Crescent, All Saints, Southampton
BLACKADER, Charles G Head M 45 1826 Canada British Subject MA Cantab Teacher of Classics and Mathematics
BLACKADER, Charlotte Wife F 32 1839 Germany
BLACKADER, Mary Daughter F 4 1867 London Scholar
BLACKADER, Catherine Daughter F 3 1868 Surrey Scholar
BLACKADER, Charles G Son M 1 1870 Surrey
GAWNE, John Boarder M 16 1855 Isle of Man Scholar
WOOD, Frederick Boarder M 15 1856 Gloucestershire Scholar
DOUGLAS, Frederick Boarder M 19 1852 Isle of Wight
HOWLETT, Edmond Boarder M 16 1855 India Scholar
ANDERSON, George Boarder M 17 1854 India Scholar
LIDDLE, William Boarder M 15 1856 Shropshire Scholar
DOVETON, Charles Boarder M 16 1855 India Scholar
COMYON, Charles Boarder M 15 1856 Gloucestershire Scholar
ANDERSON, Alexander Boarder M 14 1857 Ireland Scholar
SEYMOUR, Rebecca Servant F 25 1846 Cambridgeshire Nurse
STUPAKOFF, Mary Servant F 25 1846 Germany Cook
MARSH, Anne Servant F 21 1850 Hampshire Housemaid
EASTMAN, Elizabeth Servant F 14 1857 Hampshire Scullery Maid
Did she come from Germany with Charlotte?
As Charles was at Cambridge there could be more info in Alumni lists if they go back that far
Marriages Dec 1864
Blackader Charles George Clifton 6a 289
Guinand Charlotte Louisa Dorothea Clifton 6a 289
Re: Help trace London immigrant GGmother in 1800's
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:57 am
by Maths girl
Maths girl wrote:Possible 1861
1861 Pyle Street, Newport
BUCKLER, Frances Head Widow F 58 1803 Grocer Newport Hampshire
JUPE, Jane Daughter Widow F 30 1831 Upholsterer Newport Hampshire
BUCKLER, Alfred Son M 14 1847 Porter At Agricultural Labourer Newport Hampshire
BUCKLER, Emma Daughter F 12 1849 Scholar Newport Hampshire
JUPE, Georgina Granddaughter F 8 1853 Scholar Newport Hampshire
JUPE, Isabella Granddaughter F 4 1857 Scholar Newport Hampshire
1851 Quay Street, Newport
BUCKLER, James Head Married M 46 1805 Miller Newport Isle of Wight
BUCKLER, Fanny Wife Married F 47 1804 Newport Isle of Wight
BUCKLER, Jane Daughter Unmarried F 20 1831 Dress Maker Newport Isle of Wight
BUCKLER, Richard Son M 12 1839 Scholar Newport Isle of Wight
BUCKLER, Alfred Son M 4 1847 Scholar Newport Isle of Wight
BUCKLER, Emma Daughter F 2 1849 Scholar Newport Isle of Wight
1841 Sea Street, Newport
BUCKLER, James M 35 1806 Hampshire Miller
BUCKLER, Frances F 35 1806 Hampshire
BUCKLER, Jane F 9 1832 Hampshire
BUCKLER, Richard M 2 1839 Hampshire
BUCKLER, Elizabeth F 0 (3 months) 1841 Hampshire
Possible same houseNEWMAN, David M 35 1806 Hampshire Smith
YOUNGER, Sarah F 40 1801 Hampshire
YOUNGER, Mary F 20 1821
LACEY, Selina F 15 1826 Hampshire FS
Re: Help trace London immigrant GGmother in 1800's
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 9:16 am
by Jimmy
Marriages Dec 1864.
Blackader Charles George. Clifton. 6a. 289.
Dumbleton John. Clifton. 6a. 289.
Guinand Charlotte Louisa Dorothea. Clifton. 6a. 289.
Stokes Emma. Clifton. 6a. 289.
Re: Help trace London immigrant GGmother in 1800's
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 9:27 am
by Bucklerclan
Jimmy wrote:Marriages Jun 1873.
Buckler Alfred James. Southampton. 2c. 45.
Stupakoff Mary C F W. Southampton. 2c. 45.
Once again a
huge thanks to everyone for all the free help.
Jimmy, can you tell me what 2c 45 refers to please? Do I need to quote this to see a marriage certificate ? Do I need to write to the Registrar at Southampton or can I safely get a copy online ?
I also am interested to know if there would be paperwork archives in respect of immigration in those days? If so, I imagine they would be rather detailed, so very useful for my existing relatives in Germany, who can find no trace of Mary Stupakoff but only her siblings.
Any other Stupakoffs in Southampton would be of interest ( possibly in earlier times ). If not then it would at least eliminate that possibility.
Here is a photo of the Buckler family you have been investigating :
- Buckler Family circa1890 forum.JPG (139.48 KiB) Viewed 2031 times
Re: Help trace London immigrant GGmother in 1800's
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:09 am
by Jimmy
I am not sure what you quote when ordering certs, but the 2c is a volume no, and 45 is page no I think.
Re: Help trace London immigrant GGmother in 1800's
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:19 am
by Northern Lass
Jimmy wrote:I am not sure what you quote when ordering certs, but the 2c is a volume no, and 45 is page no I think.
Yes that is correct
you can order online too
I order lots online it is very good
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Governmentc ... /index.htmYou will need the regis district and you will need the quarter regis in
Re: Help trace London immigrant GGmother in 1800's
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:05 pm
by Bucklerclan
Thankyou and I have just ordered a marriage certificate for my GGrand parents from Southampton. It was so easy with the information you have all given me and I was not on the phone for more than one minute, I will not believe it until the certificate arrives in the post.
Now I must educate myself about immigration papers and find out if copies can be obtained and where from.
Re: Help trace London immigrant GGmother in 1800's
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:54 pm
by Maths girl
That picture is amazing -- it is lovely to be able to put faces to names like that --
Re: Help trace London immigrant GGmother in 1800's
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:10 pm
by Bucklerclan
Maths girl wrote:That picture is amazing -- it is lovely to be able to put faces to names like that --
Yes, I thought it would mean more to those of you who have been so helpful.
The little boy at the front Frank Buckler was my grandfather but he died of lung cancer long before I was born. He was a chain smoker ! He was an entreprenure and a Freeman of the City of London and he invented and manufactured the first ladies compacts using solid powder and won a contract with Woolworths. He also invented an "everlasting" road surface called "Steelascon" and it was first used for the length of Hammersmith High Street but proved so inpenetrable that they were unable to attend to the services below and he never got another contract from any other council. In spite of, or because of his many other wild ideas he eventually became bankrupt.
Re: Help trace London immigrant GGmother in 1800's
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 7:10 pm
by Bucklerclan
Thanks to the good members of this forum, I have already received a copy of the marriage certificate of my Great Grandparents dated 1873, from the Southampton Registrar. Very sparse details but a couple of items that will be a great help in making further enquiries in Germany where I am lucky to have a German speaking 3rd. cousin on the same quest.
I gather that immigation records are kept at National Archives Kew. If any member has experience of these and advice I would be pleased to listen.
regards and thanks.
Re: Help trace London immigrant GGmother in 1800's
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:08 pm
by Maths girl
That's great -- keep us informed about future developments.
Maths girl