James Speake abt 1849

[Jimmy]

Marriages Mar 1877.
Devis Sarah. Stourbridge. 6c. 191.
Hollins Elijah. Stourbridge. 6c. 191.
Mills Hannah. Stourbridge. 6c. 191.
Speake James. Stourbridge. 6c. 191.

[kdw]

Can someone please check this cant make out if it says wid.
Possible for James in 1871
Wolverhampton
Thomas Porter Head 55 Labourer Born Wolverhampton
Elizabeth Porter Wife 45 Born Ettingshall
James Speabe Lodger 29 Bricklayer Born Stretton Hall Salop

[grangers14]

To me it looks like Mar
Jo

[kdw]

Cant make sense of this

Just found this for Hannah Lightfoot
1841 Bower Kingswinford
Henry Lightfoot Head 35 Ag Lab Born in County
Maria Lightfoot 30 Not Born in County
Ann Lightfoot 6 Born in County
Hannah Lightfoot 3 Born in County
Mary Lightfoot 4 Mo Born in County

1851 Quarry Bank
Soloman David Head 30 Nail Maker Born Kingswinford
Maria David Wife 40 Nail Mkaer Born Cheshire
Hannah Lightford StepDaughter 12 Scholar Born Kingswinford

1861 Royal Oak ? Kingswinford
Solomon Davies Head 40 Horse Nail Maker Born KIngswinford
Maria Davies Wife 50 Born Cheshire
Hannah Lighfoot Daur in law 22 Green Grocer Born Kingswinford

1871 Turnpike Road Kingswinford
Solomon Davis Head 58 Confectioner Born Kingswinford
Maria Davis Wife 60 Born Cheshire
Hannah Speake Head Mar 34 Born Kingswinford
Solomon H Speake Son 6 Scholar Born Kingswinford
Thomas H Speake Son 4 Schoalr Born Kingswinford

Marriage for Solomon and Maria
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1871
LIGHTFOOT Maria DAVIES Solomon J Dudley, St Edmund Dudley Register Office 201/005/128

Marriages Sep 1871
Davies Solomon Fisher Dudley 6c 27
Lightfoot Maria Dudley 6c 27
Millington Phebe Dudley 6c 27
WHITTAKER George Dudley 6c 27

[Jimmy]

This looks a bit late.

West Midlands Marriage 1871.
DAVIES Solomon J, LIGHTFOOT Maria, Dudley, St Edmund. Dudley Register Office. 201/005/128.

[Jimmy]

Submitted,
HENRY LIGHTFOOT.
MARIA HUGHES.
Marriage: 26 DEC 1833. Wrenbury, Cheshire.

[grangers14]

What you just found Kaye is what I flagged earlier for 1891 I think, Jimmy put 1881 census for them too.
Must be two?
Jo

[Jimmy]

HANNAH LIGHTFOOT.
Birth, 20 APR 1838.
Christening, 20 MAY 1838. Brierley Hill, Stafford.
Parents:
HENRY LIGHTFOOT.
MARIA.

[kdw]

I am getting really muddled on this have i got this right ?
So far we have James who married Hannah Rowley and married 1888

Then James his father whos father is Humphry marrying Hannah Lightfoot

James Snr is with parents in 1851 age 7 and 61 age 19
1871 hes in Wolverhampton
Wolverhampton
Thomas Porter Head 55 Labourer Born Wolverhampton
Elizabeth Porter Wife 45 Born Ettingshall
James Speabe Lodger 29 Bricklayer Born Stretton Hall Salop

1881 hes in Wednesfield
1881.
James SPEAKE. Head M Male 40 Church Stretton, Shropshire, Bricklayer.
Hannah SPEAKE. Wife M Female 42 Quarry Bank, Stafford.
Maria J. DAVIES. Mother W Female 71 Barley Down, Cheshire.
James George SPEAKE. Son Male 5 Quarry Bank, Stafford, Scholar.
Frederick Street.
Wednesfield, Stafford.

1891 hes in Aston
Transcibed as Sprake
1891 126 Herbert (?) Road, Deritend, Aston
James Speake, head, 52, Bricklayer, Church Stretton
Hannah, wife, 53, Quarry Bank
James G(?) son, 15, Engine Cleaner(?) Locomotive, Quarry bank
Mary ? Davies, lodger, W, 81, Cheshire Ben?
Mary Gro?, lodger, W, 54, Lancashire, Manchester

1901 hes in Aston
Herbert Court No 182
James Speake Head 61 Bricklayer Born Quarry Bank
Hannah Speake Wife 62 Born Hall Stretton Salop
Thomas Baker Barder 15 Born Birmingham

[grangers14]

Im lost too
That marriage in 1877 could go either way, seems right as Mills step children but also Davis, but names as Sarah??

Jo

[grangers14]

Births Jun 1849 SPEAKE James Dudley 18 342

Births Jun 1853 Speake James C Stretton 6a 512

So a couple of years between them

[Jimmy]

Is is age right on the marriage, this would fit if he was about 29 when he married.
1881.
James SPEAKE Head M Male 41 N K, Shropshire, England Bricklayer
Hannah SPEAKE Wife M Female 40 Bromsgrove, Worcester, England
James SPEAKE Son U Male 20 Halesowen, Worcester, England Bricklayer
Joseph SPEAKE Son U Male 19 Halesowen, Worcester, England Bricklayer
Fanny SPEAKE Daur U Female 13 Halesowen, Worcester, England Scholar
Sarah A. MILLS Step Daur U Female 12 Halesowen, Worcester, England Scholar
William SPEAKE Son U Male 10 Barrow In Furness, Lancashire, England Scholar
Lizzie MILLS Step Daur U Female 10 Halesowen, Worcester, England
George MILLS Step Son Male 7 Halesowen, Worcester, England Scholar
Walter SPEAKE Son Male 1 Halesowen, Worcester, England
Alfred B. SPEAKE Son Male 1 m Halesowen, Worcester, England
Soloman MORGAN Lodger U Female 32 Bromsgrove, Worcester, England Farm Laborer

Spies Lane
The Hill, Worcester.

Marriages Mar 1877.
Devis Sarah. Stourbridge. 6c. 191.
Hollins Elijah. Stourbridge. 6c. 191.
Mills Hannah. Stourbridge. 6c. 191.
Speake James. Stourbridge. 6c. 191.

These seems to fit with the step children being mills.

[kdw]

I think we have 2 James
The James that married Hannah lightfoot isnt ours

The James that married Hannah Mills seems more likely as James who married Hannah rowley gives this in 1901

1901 23 Dudley Road Oldbury
James Speake Head 40 Bricklayer Born Quinton
Hannah Speake Wife 41 Born Cakemore
Gertrude Speake Daur. 10 Born America
James Fredk Speake Son 5 Born Brades Village
Lily May Speake Daur. 2 Born Brades Village
John Rowley Bro in Law Widr. 43 Labourer in Brickworks Born Cakemore
Harriett Rowley Daur. 9 Born America
Amphss Rowley Daur. 7 Born America
James Rowley Son 5 Born America

Dont undestand this though
New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 1890 May 26 Alaska
Sarah Rowley 53 Matron England
James Speake 30 Bricklayer England
Harriet Speake 30 wife England
Amphlias Rowley 16 Spinster England
Harriet Rowley 18 Spinster England
Albut Rowley 11 England
Albut Rowley 8 Infant England

Looks like sending for the marriage of James and Hannha Mills

[Jimmy]

1881.
James SPEAKE. Head M Male 40 Church Stretton, Shropshire, Bricklayer.
Hannah SPEAKE. Wife M Female 42 Quarry Bank, Stafford.
Maria J. DAVIES. Mother W Female 71 Barley Down, Cheshire.
James George SPEAKE. Son Male 5 Quarry Bank, Stafford, Scholar.

Frederick Street.
Wednesfield, Stafford.

And this seems to fit with Maria Davies, did he marry both

Marriages Mar 1877.
Devis Sarah. Stourbridge. 6c. 191.
Hollins Elijah. Stourbridge. 6c. 191.
Mills Hannah. Stourbridge. 6c. 191.
Speake James. Stourbridge. 6c. 191.

[Jimmy]

1881.
James SPEAKE. Head M Male 40 Church Stretton, Shropshire, Bricklayer.
Hannah SPEAKE. Wife M Female 42 Quarry Bank, Stafford.
Maria J. DAVIES. Mother W Female 71 Barley Down, Cheshire.
James George SPEAKE. Son Male 5 Quarry Bank, Stafford, Scholar.

Frederick Street.
Wednesfield, Stafford.

And this seems to fit with Maria Davies, did he marry both

Marriages Mar 1877.
Devis Sarah. Stourbridge. 6c. 191.
Hollins Elijah. Stourbridge. 6c. 191.
Mills Hannah. Stourbridge. 6c. 191.
Speake James. Stourbridge. 6c. 191.

IS Maria Davies Maria Lightfoot.