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AngelaCahir wrote:

peterd wrote:anglea here your family on the bcc tree

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =152682095

yes same family but they have not Put Harriet Hender on the tree
Angelacahir

we only put on what we know angela and harriet isnt in the 1861 or 1871 census that we have on the tree


1861 Census
Halesowen Road,
George Hender, head, 32, Blacksmith, Reddbrook, Gloucstershire
Kezia, wife, 25, Rowley Regis
Sarah A, daur, 6, Rowley Regis
Jane, daur, 2, Rowley Regis
George H, son, 7 months Rowley Regis

1871 Census
Bloomfield Street, Hawn
Goerge Hender, head, 42, Blacksmith, Wales
Sarah, wife, 39, Rowley Regis
James Foley, step son, 19, Coal Miner, Rowley Regis
Emma, step daur, 17, Nail Maker, Rowley Regis
Sarah A Hender, daur, 16, Rowley Regis,
Mary, daur, 8, Rowley Regis,
Sarah, daur, 5, Rowley Regis,
Rebekah, daur, 3, Rowley Regis,
George, son, 8 months, Rowley Regis

1881; 211 Halesowen Rd, Rowley Regis, Stafford

George HENDER 50 Yeabrooke, Monmouth, Blacksmith
Sarah HENDER 47 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
George HENDER 10 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar
Sarah HENDER 14 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar
Rebecca HENDER 13 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar
Sophia HENDER 7 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar


added 1881 to bcc

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =318218305

peterd wrote:

mallosa wrote:Is this him?

1901: 2 Catsash? Shepton Mallet
Henry Gisborne 36
Harriet Gisborne 38
Ethel Gisborne 13
George Gisborne 11
Katie Gisborne 6
Hilda Gisborne 4

Living next door to George & Elizabeth Hender and family

poss san where were they born ? george poss her brother

Harriets Brother
But still no Birth for Henry gisborne Tried Bedfordshire no Gisborne born in bedfordshire
Regards Angelacahir

this poss hariet in 1881 wonder were she is in 1871

1881; 12 Weston Rd, Handsworth, Stafford

William KIRKHAM 35 Barlaston, Stafford, Draper Master
Anne M. KIRKHAM 30 Handsworth, Stafford,
Ethel M. KIRKHAM 2 Handsworth, Stafford,
Harriet HENDER Serv Female 18 Old Hill, Stafford, General Serv

peterd wrote:

mallosa wrote:Heres George...

George Hender 30 Head Carpenter Brewery Old Hill Staffordshire
Elizabeth Hender 30 Wife West Bromwich
Elizabeth M Hender 5 Dau West Bromwich
George H Hender 3 Son West Bromwich
Robert E Hender 2 months Son Shepton Mallet, Somerset

this 1901 san ?

Yes Pete sorry, I should have quoted my previous post where they were living next door to Henry & Harriet Gisborne

AngelaCahir wrote:

peterd wrote:

mallosa wrote:Is this him?

1901: 2 Catsash? Shepton Mallet
Henry Gisborne 36
Harriet Gisborne 38
Ethel Gisborne 13
George Gisborne 11
Katie Gisborne 6
Hilda Gisborne 4

Living next door to George & Elizabeth Hender and family

poss san where were they born ? george poss her brother

Harriets Brother
But still no Birth for Henry gisborne Tried Bedfordshire no Gisborne born in bedfordshire
Regards Angelacahir

try contacting the church in eversholt as it might be mistranscribed so you wont find it ?

peterd wrote:this poss hariet in 1881 wonder were she is in 1871

1881; 12 Weston Rd, Handsworth, Stafford

William KIRKHAM 35 Barlaston, Stafford, Draper Master
Anne M. KIRKHAM 30 Handsworth, Stafford,
Ethel M. KIRKHAM 2 Handsworth, Stafford,
Harriet HENDER Serv Female 18 Old Hill, Stafford, General Serv

Hi peter
this is harriet i was told that her marriage to Henry or Harry Gisborne was on the rocks he was allway comeing and going so one day his daughter would not let him in to the house and he was then belived to travel to canada /quebc / i found Henry Gisborne in Bristol trade directory entries 1893 -from 1921
1893 /1900/1901/1904/1905/1913/1921 /
and nothing after that vanished


(1) Ethel Jane Gisbourne 1/04/1888

( 2 ) George Henry Gisborne 11/05/1890

(3 ) kezia Beatrice Gisborne 29/11/1892 Father Henry Gisborne

now death cert of keziah (that's how its spelt on death cert ) 03/08/1893

( 4 ) Sidney Harold gisborne 22/03/1894

Death of Sidney 02/05/1894

( 5 ) Kate Gladys Gisborne 23/04/1895 ( My Gran mother ) death 1986)

(6 ) Hilda May Gisborne 29/05/1897

( 7 ) john Clifford Corbett Gisborne 14/07/1899

death of john Clifford Corbett Gisborne 13/04/1900

( Winifred Gisborne

name on birth cert is Winifred Grace Gisborne 25/06/1902 in the 1911 census her

name changes to Grace is only about 9 years of age so i guess it her parents changed her

name by word of mouth

( 9 ) Doris Gwendoline Gisborne 08/07/1906


I have grace and William decon Marriage Cert Married may 12th 1924
I have a copy of Doris and Cyril Robson Marriage cert 24th December 1932
i have Harrie ts s Marriage Cert to Henry Gisborne 12th September 1887
and i have Harriet's Death Cert 18/01.1949 buried in Canford cem but know Head Stone only a Slab of a stone with name and Date
and that all .
George Henry Gisborne born 11/05/1890 Married a maria Miller 1Th /07/1912 George died 1958 henry is belived to have gone to canada with granson john robson around the 1940's
Regards Angelacahir

have you the 1871 census with harriet in it how do you know that george hender and kezia willetts are here parents ?

Angela has Harriet's marriage certificate which shows that her father is a George Hender Blacksmith:

Marriage Certificate - Sept 12th 1889 Registration District: Axbridge
At The Parish Church, Parish of Weston-Super-Mare, Somerset

Henry Bunker GISBORNE 23 Bachelor Insurance Agent of Meadow Street father: William Bunker GISBORNE (deceased) Gentleman
and
Harriet HENDER 25 Spinster - Meadow Street father: George HENDER Blacksmith

according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church after bannsRev, Hawey Curate-in-charge of All Saints

Witnessed: Silvester George Baker & Jane Hender

Went looking for either Harriet or Jane Hender in 1871 and did find this:

1871
At New Street, Rowley Regis
George Willetts Head Mar 71 Retired Nail Master b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Sarah Willetts Wife Mar 64 Wife b. Worcs., Bewdly
George Willetts Son Unm 20 Nail Master's Son b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Sarah Willetts Daur Unm 25 Nail Master's Daur b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Jane Ender Willetts granddaughter 12 Scholar b. Staffs., Rowley Regis

No Harriet! Where is she? Maybe with a sister or brother of Kezia? And not using Hender as her surname, like her sister, Jane?

dianel wrote:Went looking for either Harriet or Jane Hender in 1871 and did find this:

1871
At New Street, Rowley Regis
George Willetts Head Mar 71 Retired Nail Master b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Sarah Willetts Wife Mar 64 Wife b. Worcs., Bewdly
George Willetts Son Unm 20 Nail Master's Son b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Sarah Willetts Daur Unm 25 Nail Master's Daur b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Jane Ender Willetts granddaughter 12 Scholar b. Staffs., Rowley Regis

No Harriet! Where is she? Maybe with a sister or brother of Kezia? And not using Hender as her surname, like her sister, Jane?

right that tie jane in to kezia and witness to harriett

harriett father george blacksmith on wedding cert

in 1901 living next door to george hender poss brother as born old hill same as george on bcc

so i think enough eviedence to include harriet what do the rest think ?

Yes it looks good can you add that info Pete and those marriage details too
be good to get her on etc

all on bcc

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... d=45747929

can archieve

Thanks Pete for adding that lot