*Arc tbc* ---Charlotte unknown

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1911
8 OAK STREET OLD HILL, Dudley
ADAMS, KEZIA CHARLOTTE EMILY WIFE MARRIED F 43 PORTSMOUTH HAMPSHIRE
ADAMS, LOIS ROSE DAUGHTER SINGLE F 17 STUDENT MISTRESS OLD HILL STAFFORDSHIRE
ADAMS, RUTH DAUGHTER F 14 STUDENT MISTRESS OLD HILL STAFFORDSHIRE
ADAMS, CLEMENT SON M 10 SCHOOL OLD HILL STAFFORDSHIRE
ADAMS, THOMAS HARMAN SON M 8 SCHOOL OLD HILL STAFFORDSHIRE

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Not up with this..

ADAMS, KEZIA CHARLOTTE EMILY WIFE MARRIED F 43 PORTSMOUTH HAMPSHIRE
ADAMS, THOMAS HARMAN SON M 8 SCHOOL OLD HILL STAFFORDSHIRE

and....

11 feb 1891 St Johns Halesowen
-John Thomas Adams 25- bach - Evangelist- Reddal Hill - Thomas Adams - Smith
-Sarah Ann Rose Scrivener- Halesowen- Richard Scrivener- deceased - gardener
-both signed
-Wit- Edwin Vaughan and Kezia Harman


is it me.....how many did he marry?

[kdw]

Births Jun 1867
Dickens Kezia Charlotte E Portsea 2b 457

[kdw]

This is getting wierd
Marriages Dec 1892
Adams John Thomas Portsea 2b 1094
Harman Kezia Charlotte E Portsea 2b 1094
Tucknott Isabella Portsea 2b 1094
Walsh Patrick Portsea 2b 1094

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Charlotte/Crissie evangelist groupie...
1891
No 8 Oak Street, Rowley
Rose Adams 28 - Head - Married - b London
Crissie Harman 23 - Visitor - Evangelist - b Portsmouth

next door
Thomas Adams 48 - Anchor smith
Martha Adams 52
Martha M Adams 22
John Thos Adams 25 - Evangelist mission preacher (Married)
all b Dudley

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1871
33 Gloucester Street, Portsea
Kezia Harman 22 - Married
Kezia Harman 3
Ellen Vinall 16 - Niece - Shirtmaker - b Jersey
others b Portsmouth

1881
28 Warwick Street, Portsea
Kezia Harman 32 - Charwoman
Kezia Harman 15 - Domestic servant unemployed
both b Portsmouth

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1891
No 8 Oak Street, Rowley
Rose Adams 28 - Head - Married - b London
Crissie Harman 23 - Visitor - Evangelist - b Portsmouth

Poss Rose Adams

11 feb 1891 St Johns Halesowen
-John Thomas Adams 25- bach - Evangelist- Reddal Hill - Thomas Adams - Smith
[b]-Sarah Ann Rose Scrivener[/b]- Halesowen- Richard Scrivener- deceased - gardener

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Charlotte/Crissie evangelist groupie...
1891
No 8 Oak Street, Rowley
Rose Adams 28 - Head - Married - b London
Crissie Harman 23 - Visitor - Evangelist - b Portsmouth

next door
Thomas Adams 48 - Anchor smith
Martha Adams 52
Martha M Adams 22
John Thos Adams 25 - Evangelist mission preacher (Married)
all b Dudley

When was this census taken?

so that is Rose Adams aka Sarah Ann Rose...she didnt die until 23 May 1891
so that must be her with her Witness Kezia Harmon

So this marriage
1891
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
DUNN Sarah J ADAMS John T Blackheath, St Paul Dudley Register Office 012/002/500

Marriages Jun 1891
Adams John Thomas Stourbridge 6c 191
Dunn Sarah Jane Stourbridge 6c 191
Hingley Charlotte Stourbridge 6c 191

is it him?

and then does Sarah Jane die and he marries in 1892

Marriages Dec 1892
Adams John Thomas Portsea 2b 1094
Harman Kezia Charlotte E Portsea 2b 1094
Tucknott Isabella Portsea 2b 1094
Walsh Patrick Portsea 2b 1094

and if so why is that Thomas Harmon b 1903 with them in 1911
those kids would fit the 1892 marriage eldest is aged 17

1911
8 OAK STREET OLD HILL, Dudley
ADAMS, KEZIA CHARLOTTE EMILY WIFE MARRIED F 43 PORTSMOUTH HAMPSHIRE
ADAMS, LOIS ROSE DAUGHTER SINGLE F 17 STUDENT MISTRESS OLD HILL STAFFORDSHIRE
ADAMS, RUTH DAUGHTER F 14 STUDENT MISTRESS OLD HILL STAFFORDSHIRE
ADAMS, CLEMENT SON M 10 SCHOOL OLD HILL STAFFORDSHIRE
ADAMS, THOMAS HARMAN SON M 8 SCHOOL OLD HILL STAFFORDSHIRE

summary pls
what do we need

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1911
8 OAK STREET OLD HILL, Dudley
ADAMS, KEZIA CHARLOTTE EMILY WIFE MARRIED F 43 PORTSMOUTH HAMPSHIRE
ADAMS, LOIS ROSE DAUGHTER SINGLE F 17 STUDENT MISTRESS OLD HILL STAFFORDSHIRE
ADAMS, RUTH DAUGHTER F 14 STUDENT MISTRESS OLD HILL STAFFORDSHIRE
ADAMS, CLEMENT SON M 10 SCHOOL OLD HILL STAFFORDSHIRE
ADAMS, THOMAS HARMAN SON M 8 SCHOOL OLD HILL STAFFORDSHIRE

How long they been married for on this one?

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Births Jun 1867
Dickens Kezia Charlotte E Portsea 2b 457

this looks like ours

so why is she then Harman

is there a marriage?
yet she is Harman in census with mother

this is so odd

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Ok he is an Adams

1903
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
ADAMS Thomas Dudley Dudley Register Office DUD/242/66

so adding that marriage in 1892

Q is now did he marry in 1891 June regis

got a lovely lovely person checking that marriage St Pauls....

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1911
8 OAK STREET OLD HILL, Dudley
ADAMS, KEZIA CHARLOTTE EMILY WIFE MARRIED F 43 PORTSMOUTH HAMPSHIRE
ADAMS, LOIS ROSE DAUGHTER SINGLE F 17 STUDENT MISTRESS OLD HILL STAFFORDSHIRE
ADAMS, RUTH DAUGHTER F 14 STUDENT MISTRESS OLD HILL STAFFORDSHIRE
ADAMS, CLEMENT SON M 10 SCHOOL OLD HILL STAFFORDSHIRE
ADAMS, THOMAS HARMAN SON M 8 SCHOOL OLD HILL STAFFORDSHIRE

she is not down as a widow
where is he?

[kdw]

This is odd
Marriages Dec 1870

Harman Thomas Portsea 2b 891
Hearter Frank Jones Portsea 2b 891
JONES Kezia Portsea 2b 891
Wiltshire Mary Ann Portsea 2b 891

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This is odd
Marriages Dec 1870

Harman Thomas Portsea 2b 891
Hearter Frank Jones Portsea 2b 891
JONES Kezia Portsea 2b 891
Wiltshire Mary Ann Portsea 2b 891

So that is her mother

so where the dickens does dickens come from
we got this lot on 1871?

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1871
33 Gloucester Street, Portsea
Kezia Harman 22 - Married
Kezia Harman 3
Ellen Vinall 16 - Niece - Shirtmaker - b Jersey
others b Portsmouth

1881
28 Warwick Street, Portsea
Kezia Harman 32 - Charwoman
Kezia Harman 15 - Domestic servant unemployed
both b Portsmouth