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Re: Oliver Shaw and Sarah Tromans
Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 10:00 pm
by FarSide
Northern Lass wrote:Yes agree
Emmanuel marries Sarah Westwood...look up down
son Solomon marries Martha...look up down
Dau Sarah marries Oliver Shaw ...look up down
but I cant believe none are on Bcc....
and just wondered if someone can have a look in case I missed em
Don't see any of them either..
Re: Oliver Shaw and Sarah Tromans
Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 10:17 pm
by FarSide
1871
Club Buildings, Rowley
Soloman Tromans 30 - Carter
Martha Tromans 29
Sarah Priest 8 - daug
all b Rowley
peterd wrote:1891 census this might be william and sarah ?
1881 66 Club Building Rowley Regis, Stafford
Solomon TROMANS 40 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Horse Driver (Miner)
Martha TROMANS 38 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
Sarah C. TROMANS 18 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Chain Maker
William TROMANS 6 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar
Re: Oliver Shaw and Sarah Tromans
Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 10:21 pm
by peterd
1851 (looks like Tromas on image)
Club Building, Rowley
Emanuel Thomas 36 - Chainmaker - b Dudley
Sarah Thomas 42
David Thomas 11 - Chainmaker
Soloman Thomas 10
Rowland Thomas 8
William Thomas 2
others b Rowley
poss marriage
but where is he in 1861 ?
TROWMAN Rowland WILLETTS Hannah 1877 Halesowen, St John the Baptist West Midlands Dudley Register Office 014/004/299
Re: Oliver Shaw and Sarah Tromans
Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 10:26 pm
by FarSide
peterd wrote:poss marriage
TROWMANS Solomon PRIEST Martha 1862 Dudley, St Thomas West Midlands Dudley Register Office 204/021/160
SOLOMON TROWMANS
MARTHA PRIEST
Marriage: 25 DEC 1862 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Wonder if this is Martha on BCC
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =850738891
Re: Oliver Shaw and Sarah Tromans
Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 10:27 pm
by Northern Lass
That marriage belongs to the son of Matthew so not the son of Emmanuel
ROWLAND TROWMAN. HANNAH WILLETTS.
Marriage info added by Jan
16 July 1877 St Johns Halesowen
-Roland Tromans- 23- bach- chainmaker- Hawne Matthew Tromans- Chainmaker
-Hannah Willetts- 22- spinster- nailer- Hawne - Frederick Willetts Chainmaker
banns
Roland signed and X Hannah
Wit- Hiriam? Tromans/ Hester? Trowman
Re: Oliver Shaw and Sarah Tromans
Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 10:28 pm
by Maths girl
Northern Lass wrote:That marriage belongs to the son of Matthew so not the son of Emmanuel
ROWLAND TROWMAN. HANNAH WILLETTS.
Marriage info added by Jan
16 July 1877 St Johns Halesowen
-Roland Tromans- 23- bach- chainmaker- Hawne Matthew Tromans- Chainmaker
-Hannah Willetts- 22- spinster- nailer- Hawne - Frederick Willetts Chainmaker
banns
Roland signed and X Hannah
Wit- Hiriam? Tromans/ Hester? Trowman
Could Hiriam be Miriam?
Re: Oliver Shaw and Sarah Tromans
Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 10:32 pm
by Northern Lass
Maths girl wrote:Northern Lass wrote:That marriage belongs to the son of Matthew so not the son of Emmanuel
ROWLAND TROWMAN. HANNAH WILLETTS.
Marriage info added by Jan
16 July 1877 St Johns Halesowen
-Roland Tromans- 23- bach- chainmaker- Hawne Matthew Tromans- Chainmaker
-Hannah Willetts- 22- spinster- nailer- Hawne - Frederick Willetts Chainmaker
banns
Roland signed and X Hannah
Wit- Hiriam? Tromans/ Hester? Trowman
Could Hiriam be Miriam?
no it is Hiriam and they are bro and sis
Hiriam and Kester or that is what she is on marriage
Re: Oliver Shaw and Sarah Tromans
Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 10:33 pm
by Northern Lass
FarSide wrote:peterd wrote:poss marriage
TROWMANS Solomon PRIEST Martha 1862 Dudley, St Thomas West Midlands Dudley Register Office 204/021/160
SOLOMON TROWMANS
MARTHA PRIEST
Marriage: 25 DEC 1862 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Wonder if this is Martha on BCC
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =850738891
I think you have something there Fs
the westwood link is with that family too
and club buildings
she is not on 1871 but on 1861
Re: Oliver Shaw and Sarah Tromans
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:02 am
by FarSide
peterd wrote:1851 (looks like Tromas on image)
Club Building, Rowley
Emanuel Thomas 36 - Chainmaker - b Dudley
Sarah Thomas 42
David Thomas 11 - Chainmaker
Soloman Thomas 10
Rowland Thomas 8
William Thomas 2
others b Rowley
poss marriage
but where is he in 1861 ?
TROWMAN Rowland WILLETTS Hannah 1877 Halesowen, St John the Baptist West Midlands Dudley Register Office 014/004/299
Don't see him either
Wonder if this is him
Deaths Sep 1852
TROMANS Roland Dudley 6c 2
Re: Oliver Shaw and Sarah Tromans
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:49 am
by FarSide
Added this marriage to lookups, as there's 4 possibles
1858
SHAW Benjamin ADAMS Sarah Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/017/343
1861
65 Netherton Hill, Rowley
Benjamin Shaw 28 - Nailor
Sarah Shaw 21 - b Bilston
Louise S Shaw 1
Oliver N B Shaw 1 Mo others b Netherton
1871
High Street, Rowley
Benjamin Shaw 38 - Stationer & Local preacher - b Pensentt
Sarah Shaw 31 - b Bilston
Lois Lowe Shaw 11
Oliver G B Shaw 10 Emma C Shaw 8
others b Dudley
1881 (occ's - Lois & Oliver were round the other way on image)
86 Garratts Lane, Rowley
Benjamin Shaw 48 - Widr - Stationer & Local Meth preacher - b Kingswinford
Lois L. Shaw 21 - Shopwoman Stationer
Oliver J.B. Shaw 20 - Screw facerEmma C. Shaw 18 - Dress maker
others b Netherton
FarSide wrote:Wit on marriage of Enos Mantle and Eudora Woodall
<br>26 Aug 1883 St Luke Cradley Heath<br>
Enos Mantle -22 -bach- Machinist -Reddall Hill -Father -George Mantle (Deceased) Tailor<br>
Eudora Woodall- 21 -spin -Reddall Hill -Father Samuel Woodall -Chain Maker <br>
Wit;Oliver Shaw /Sarah Elizabeth Shaw<br><br>
1881
SHAW Oliver TROMANS Sarah Stourbridge, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 006/001/177
1891
56 Congreaves Road, Rowley
Emanuel Tromans 76 - Chainmaker - b Dudley
William Tromans 16 - grandson - Engine fitter apprentice
Oliver Shaw 30 - Engine fitter - b Dudley
Sarah Shaw 28 - Chainmaker
Horace Shaw 6
Bertie Shaw 2
others b Rowley
1901
Spion cottage, Congreaves Road, Rowley
Oliver Shaw 40 - Fitter machine - b Netherton
Sarah Shaw 38
Horace Shaw 16 - Add coome? shackle maker
Bertie Shaw 12
May Shaw 7
Ewart Shaw 3
Doris Shaw 2
Clarice Shaw 4 months
others b Rowley
Re: Oliver Shaw and Sarah Tromans
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:49 am
by Northern Lass
So much info on this and quite complicated and involved
but I think we have something with this lot
think Martha may be on
all look ups on
but we could start to add some...carefully
I will try and do it or if anyone else can start it off
flagging for help adding to BCC
cant see emmanuel, solomon Tromans or oliver shaw on BCC but could have missed it
Re: *Help pls adding info to BCC* -Oliver Shaw and Sarah Tromans
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:18 pm
by Annie
Hi Northern Lass I will add the Shaw /Tromans and check again at the same time if they are on.
Annie
Re: *Help pls adding info to BCC* -Oliver Shaw and Sarah Tromans
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:51 pm
by Northern Lass
Thanks for helping add this Annie
I am just adding more ....
getting a bit lost
I think Sarah Westwood is this one
SARAH WESTWOOD
Christening: 23 OCT 1808 Cradley, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: SAMUEL WESTWOOD Mother: ELIZABETH
Extracted
and I think it is this lot here...
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =295839665but one son bapt RR
other is bapt Cradley
there is another on IGI to a Samuel and Elizabeth WEstwood bapt 1813
dunno on that one
Re: *Help pls adding info to BCC* -Oliver Shaw and Sarah Tromans
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:16 pm
by Annie
Re: *Help pls adding info to BCC* -Oliver Shaw and Sarah Tromans
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 8:58 pm
by Northern Lass
Ok thanks for all the help
this is all on now pending look ups so going to arch