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Just in case people have looked in Ancestry for the 1851 census, Ancestry has the 1851 census as:

Living at Minshul St., West Derby
Thos Foster Head Mar 44 Wine & Spirit Dealer b. Liverpool
Elizth Foster Wife Mar 40 b. Liverpool
Richd Foster Son 18 Assistant b. Liverpool
James Foster Son 14 Scholar b. Liverpool
Charles Foster Son 11 Scholar b. Liverpool
Mary A Foster Daur 8 Scholar b. Liverpool
Danl Foster Son 5 Scholar b. Liverpool
John Foster Son 3 Scholar b. Liverpool
Aliner (corrected to 'Oliver' on the image) Foster Son 2 b. Liverpool
Elizth Foster Daur 6 Mo b. Liverpool
Barbara Jones Servt.U 26 Servant b. Denbigh
Mary Williams Servt. U 17 b. Liverpool
John Bell Servt. U 18 b. Carleton, Cumberland

1851
At 6 Gloucester St., Liverpool
Jeremiah Winder Head 22 Publican b. Church, Lancashire
Margaret Winder Wife 21 b. Liverpool, Lancashire
Margt Winder Daur 6 Mo b. Liverpool, Lancashire
Thomas Foster Brother??? Unm. 19 Watchmaker b. Liverpool, Lancashire
Mary Buckley Servant Unm. 28 Servant b. Lynnally, Offaly, Ireland
Margt Emery Servant Unm. 14 Servant b. Ireland

Relationships getting a little confusing Think Margaret Winder (nee Foster) b. abt 1830 is Thomas' daughter. Therefore, the Margaret Winder with him in 1861 is actually his granddaughter rather than niece?

Not wanting to jump to conclusions or anything , but there is this :

1851
At 62 Lower Harrington St., Toxteth Park. West Derby, Liverpool
Margaret Foster Head Widow 46 Licensed Victualler b. Lancashire, Liverpool
Mary Shoford Daur Mar 21 b. Lancashire, Liverpool
Margaret Foster Daur Unm. 19 b. Lancashire, Liverpool
Jane Foster Daur Unm. 14 b. Lancashire, Liverpool
John Foster Son 15 b. Lancashire, Liverpool
Mary Wilson Visitor Widow 52 b. Lancashire, Liverpool
Geo Wilkie Visitor Widower 64 Late Ship Master B. Scotland
John Sork Lodger 46 Mariner b. Norfolk, Yarmouth
Philip Holden Lodger 26 Mariner b Little Arby Epet(?)
David McCay Lodger 30 Mariner b. Ireland
Henry Day Lodger 42 Mariner b. Cumberland, Whitehaven
Mary A Thorp Servant 21 General Servant b. Lancashire, Liverpool

Free BMDs
Margaret Foster 1849 Liverpool (1837-1934) Lancashire
Jeremiah Winder 1849 Liverpool (1837-1934)

dianel wrote:Not wanting to jump the conclusions or anything , but there is this :

1851
At 62 Lower Harrington St., Toxteth Park. West Derby, Liverpool
Margaret Foster Head Widow 46 Licensed Victualler b. Lancashire, Liverpool
Mary Shoford Daur Mar 21 b. Lancashire, Liverpool
Margaret Foster Daur Unm. 19 b. Lancashire, Liverpool
Jane Foster Daur Unm. 14 b. Lancashire, Liverpool
John Foster Son 15 b. Lancashire, Liverpool
Mary Wilson Visitor Widow 52 b. Lancashire, Liverpool
Geo Wilkie Visitor Widower 64 Late Ship Master B. Scotland
John Sork Lodger 46 Mariner b. Norfolk, Yarmouth
Philip Holden Lodger 26 Mariner b Little Arby Epet(?)
David McCay Lodger 30 Mariner b. Ireland
Henry Day Lodger 42 Mariner b. Cumberland, Whitehaven
Mary A Thorp Servant 21 General Servant b. Lancashire, Liverpool

Don't think this is the right family, but this looks like the same one in 1841
At Woolfe St., Extra Parochial Toxteth Park, Liverpool
Thomas Foster 40 Shipwright
Margh Foster 40
Margt Foster 5
Mary Foster 8
Jane Foster 3
Elizth Foster 7
Esther Foster 80
John Foster 6
All born in county

hello and thankyou very much to all of you who have replied, for taking the time and trouble to search for this info for me,
i dident have any of the childrens names, or an address for the fam ily so once again thanks,
i think i will need to send for matildas birth cert to find out who the parents were also i think john alfreds marrieage cert
pat

Those certificates certainly could help, Pat. Got me curious now
Di

me too daniel, the more i read the more confusing it becomes trying to work out whos who!!!
but did they have birth certificates in those days or would it be better to get the marriage cert? which would give me the most info ? and what inform ation would it give? i know the most recent ones give both parents names, as i am actually trying to find the parents of thom as foster (john alfreds father) now i am confusing matters even more!!!!!
pat

From 1837
A Birth Certificate Will Contain,

The Date of Birth and where born.
The Name.
Sex.
Name and Surname of the Father
Name and Maiden Name of Mother.
Occupation of Father.
Description and residence of informant.
When Registered
Signature of Registrar.
(After 1969 details of Parents' place of Birth and Mothers Occupation)



A Marriage Certificate Will Contain,

Date When Married.
Name and Surname of Bride and Groom.
Age.
Condition. Bachelor Spinster or widowed
Rank or Profession.
Residence at the Time of Marriage.
Fathers' names and Surnames of both parties.
Rank and Profession of both Fathers.
Witnesses to the Marriage.

Did you get anywhere on this Pat?
Jo

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