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Extra census added for John and Sarah and children
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =590254754

So you think possibly Sussannah who married Thomas Smart may be the same?
Theres no census for them could we do another thread?

Jimmy wrote:I can't see a John Rhodes anywhere that fits.

1851. Looks like Chip Yard, Halesowen.
Lenn Rose. 50. Widow. Ann on image.
Susannah Rose 13.
John Rose 15. Gun barrell borer.
Phoenix Rose 6.
Mathew Bennett 34. lodger.
Mary Bennett 34. lodger.
Sarah Shilcoke 50. lodger.

1841. Spring Hill, Halesowen
John Rose 50. Nailer.
Ann Rose 40.
Emma Rose 9.
John Rose 4.
Susanna Rose 3.

thanks Jo

I think we can connect up to this lot
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections

I think that is Susannah
we can add wife Ann and that possible marriage to Parkes or the other
but I think it is parkes

I am going to get the birth cert for Susannah I think I want to know if mother is Parkes
so how about connecting up Jo?
and putting a better dob in for the John Rose snr I only est one
and the kids would be good pls for John snr and Ann Unknown( tbc if parkes)

Just going through John Sr
1851 census Shows Ann(Lenn) as Mar so looking for John?
Jo

1851. Birmingham St. Halesowen.

John Rose 62. Head. born Northfield. labourer. can't make out if widow or married.

Could this be them in 1861.
1851 as Ann born Conten Lane. Carters on image.

1861. High St. Halesowen.
John Rose 75. collecter of herbs. born Northfield.
Ann Rose 60. Char Woman. born Castle Lane Lapal. (Carters Lane)

I think so too Jimmy. Just seen the 1861 census

Can you make the name of the address Jimmy? It says High street after them page before looks like Hodgetts Yard?

Does this look right??
1841
Spring Hill, Halesowen
John Rose, 50, Nailer, Not born County
Ann Rose, 40,
Emma Rose, 9,
John Rose, 4,
Susanna Rose, 3,
/William White, 45, Nailer
All others born County

1851 Census
Chip Yard, Halesowen.
Ann Rose, Head, Mar 50. Widow, Nailer, Conten(?) Lane (Transcribed as Lenn on Ancestry).
Susannah Rose, Daur, 13, Horn Button Maker
John Rose, son, 15, Gun barrell borer.
Phoenix Rose, son, 8,
Mathew Bennett, 34, Lodger, Hoop Sh(?) Liverpool
Mary Bennett , 34, lodger, Liverpool
Sarah Shilcoke, 50, lodger, Laundress, Brecon(?) South Wales
All others born Halesowen

1861 Census
Hodgett(?) Yard, Halesowen
John Rose, head, 75, Collector of Herbs, Northfield
Ann, wife, 60, Charwoman, Carter Lane Lapal

Yes it looks like Hodgetts Yard.

Do you think Pheonix is actually Felix?

1838
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
ROSE Susanna Halesowen Dudley Register Office HAL/001/292

Jimmy wrote:SUSANNA ROSE.
Christening, 08 JUL 1838. Halesowen, Worcester.
.
Parents:
JOHN ROSE.
ANN.

Northern Lass wrote:1838
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
ROSE Susanna Halesowen Dudley Register Office HAL/001/292

That looks right.

grangers14 wrote:Do you think Pheonix is actually Felix?

I am losing this now...

can we check is there a record of his birth

also when was John Jnr born?
I wont get his birth will I to send off for
cos going to send for Susannah
but then thought might as well send for John if he is after 1837 or when they started regis is it sept qtr?

West Midlands Birth 1843.
ROSE Felix. Halesowen. Dudley Register Office. HAL/004/478.

Theres a few John Roses born about that time, I would think stick to Susannah to be safe.
Jo