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Re: Ruth Ebroms /Ebrons

Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 9:18 pm
by linell
linell wrote:Hi NL, what a conundrum :!: Think this family are connected:-

1841 Five Ways Cradley Heath
EDMONDS, William M 35 1806 Staffordshire
EDMONDS, Ann F 35 1806 Staffordshire
EDMONDS, Isiah M 13 1828 Staffordshire
EDMONDS, Elizebeth F 12 1829 Staffordshire
EDMONDS, Edwin M 11 1830 Staffordshire
EDMONDS, Nancy F 8 1833 Staffordshire
EDMONDS, Meriah F 6 1835 Staffordshire
EDMONDS, William M 2 1839 Staffordshire
EDMONDS, Josiah M 0 (9 months) 1841 Staffordshire

Linell.


The two previous households are the Witnesses:-
William Fudge 28 Stone Miner No
Mary 30

James Billingham 20 Chainmaker (brother of John?)
Mary 30

Then Wm Edmunds Victualler and Ann.

Re: Ruth Ebroms /Ebrons

Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 9:21 pm
by linell
linell wrote:1851 Cradley Heath:-
EDMONDS, Ann Head Widow F 58 1793 Kingswinford
EDMONDS, Isaiah Son Unmarried M 26 1825 Chain Maker Rowley
EDMONDS, Elizabeth Daughter Unmarried F 24 1827 Chain Maker Rowley
EDMONDS, Edwin Son Unmarried M 21 1830 Chain Maker Rowley
EDMONDS, Nancy Daughter Unmarried F 18 1833 Chain Maker Rowley
EDMONDS, William Son M 12 1839 Chain Maker Rowley
EDMONDS, Josiah Son M 10 1841 Chain Maker Rowley
EDMONDS, Ann Maria Grand Daughter F 2 1849 Rowley
EDMONDS, Mary Grand Daughter F 0 (6 MOS) 1851 Rowley
EDMONDS, Moat Daughter F 14 1837 Rowley


EDMONDS, Ann Maria Grand Daughter F 2 1849 Rowley
EDMONDS, Mary Grand Daughter F 0 (6 MOS) 1851 Rowley

Are the above Elizabeth's children I wonder?

Linell.

Re: Ruth Ebroms /Ebrons

Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 9:28 pm
by Jimmy
1861. Rowley Regis.
Thomas Pritchard 33. Head. born, Bromsgrove.

Looks like in the same house.

Isaiah Edmonds 38. Head.
Elizabeth Billingham 30. Marr, Sister.
Josiah Edmonds 3. Nephew.
Ann Edmonds 1. Niece.

Re: Ruth Ebroms /Ebrons

Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 9:29 pm
by gardener
Jimmy wrote:1861. High St, Rowley Regis.
Ruth Billingham 41. Widow. born, Blenavern, Monmouthshire. chainmaker.
Thomas Billingham 13.
Adam Billingham 12.
Samuel Billingham 4.



24-10-1847. Mary Ann Billingham. Baptised Netherton.Born 12-7-1847 Parents Joseph and Ruth Billingham.
24-6-1849. Albert Billingham. Baptised Netherton.Died 1866 age 18 yrs. Parents Joseph and Ruth Billingham
30-7-1854. Uriah Billingham.(female) Baptised Netherton. Parents Joseph and Ruth Billingham
30-7-1854. Keriah Billingham. Baptised Netherton. Parents Joseph and Ruth Billingham.
(Information from http://billingham.freehostia.com/Billin ... Births.htm This Albert fits for age, but none of the others match)

Re: Ruth Ebroms /Ebrons

Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 9:37 pm
by Jimmy
gardener wrote:
Jimmy wrote:1861. High St, Rowley Regis.
Ruth Billingham 41. Widow. born, Blenavern, Monmouthshire. chainmaker.
Thomas Billingham 13.
Adam Billingham 12.
Samuel Billingham 4.



24-10-1847. Mary Ann Billingham. Baptised Netherton.Born 12-7-1847 Parents Joseph and Ruth Billingham.
24-6-1849. Albert Billingham. Baptised Netherton.Died 1866 age 18 yrs. Parents Joseph and Ruth Billingham
30-7-1854. Uriah Billingham.(female) Baptised Netherton. Parents Joseph and Ruth Billingham
30-7-1854. Keriah Billingham. Baptised Netherton. Parents Joseph and Ruth Billingham.
(Information from http://billingham.freehostia.com/Billin ... Births.htm This Albert fits for age, but none of the others match)


This could be this family.
1851. Mushroom, Dudley.
Jos Billingham 25. Chain maker.
Ruth Billingham 32.
Mary A Billingham 3.
Albert Billingham 2.
Mary Mountford 17. Servant.
Esther Billingham 12. Visitor.

Re: Ruth Ebroms /Ebrons

Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 9:40 pm
by linell
1861 Darby and Pargeters Colliery Foxoak Street Cradley Heath:-
PRITCHARD, Thomas Head Married M 33 1828 Coal Miner Bromsgrove
EDMONDS, Isaiah Head Unmarried M 38 1823 Chain Maker Rowley
Elizabeth Bilin (Billingham on Image) Sister Married F 30 1831 Chain Maker Rowley
EDMONDS, Josiah Nephew M 3 1858 Rowley
EDMONDS, Ann Niece F 1 1860 Rowley

Linell.

I take it that these are Elizabeth Billingham's children, doesn't look like she ever married??

EDMONDS, Josiah Nephew M 3 1858 Rowley
EDMONDS, Ann Niece F 1 1860 Rowley

Re: Ruth Ebroms /Ebrons

Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 9:41 pm
by Jimmy
Next door to Jos and Ruth in 1851,

1851.
George Billingham 58.
Nancy Billingham 57.
John Billingham 30.
Sarah Billingham 27.

Re: Ruth Ebroms /Ebrons

Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 9:42 pm
by gardener
I got Adam and Albert muddled so just ignore me please :oops:

Re: Ruth Ebroms /Ebrons

Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 9:48 pm
by linell
Jimmy wrote:Next door to Jos and Ruth in 1851,

1851.
George Billingham 58.
Nancy Billingham 57.
John Billingham 30.
Sarah Billingham 27.


Don't think that is them Jimmy, John's father was Thomas :?: Looks as though the family lived in and around Cradley Heath??

Linell.

Re: Ruth Ebroms /Ebrons

Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 9:54 pm
by linell
This must be them in 1851 Cradley Heath, Ruth's place of birth is NK, so could be Wales?

BILLINGHAM, John Head Married M 28 1823 Chain Maker Rowley
BILLINGHAM, Ruth Wife Married F 31 1820 NK
BILLINGHAM, William Son M 7 1844 Rowley
BILLINGHAM, Thomas Son M 3 1848 Rowley
BILLINGHAM, Adam Son M 2 1849 Rowley
BILLINGHAM, James Brother Married M 33 1818 Chain Maker Rowley
BILLINGHAM, Maryann Sister-In-Law Married F 31 1820 Dudley

Re: Ruth Ebroms /Ebrons

Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 9:56 pm
by linell
Can't see any connection to the Edmunds family or am I missing something :?:

Linell.

Re: Ruth Ebroms /Ebrons

Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 9:58 pm
by Jimmy
linell wrote:
Jimmy wrote:Next door to Jos and Ruth in 1851,

1851.
George Billingham 58.
Nancy Billingham 57.
John Billingham 30.
Sarah Billingham 27.


Don't think that is them Jimmy, John's father was Thomas :?: Looks as though the family lived in and around Cradley Heath??

Linell.


1851. Mushroom, Dudley.
Jos Billingham 25. Chain maker.
Ruth Billingham 32.
Mary A Billingham 3.
Albert Billingham 2.
Mary Mountford 17. Servant.
Esther Billingham 12. Visitor.

1861. Mushroom Green.
George Billingham 68.
Ann Billingham 73.
Mary Ann Billingham 13. Grand Dau.
Albert Billingham 12. Grandson
Kesiah Billingham 9. Grand Dau.
Uriah Billingham 7. Grandson.

Re: Ruth Ebroms /Ebrons

Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 10:11 pm
by grangers14
Ive got a bit lost on this now :?
I was looking, then got disturbed by living people :lol:
the link on BCC is,
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =799401826

Jimmy put census later on for Ruth didnt he, was it Monmouth? Cant think now! :?

Re: Ruth Ebroms /Ebrons

Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 10:14 pm
by Jimmy
Yes it was Monmouthshire.

Do's this do anything, but confuse.

West Midlands Marriage indexes 1847.
BILLINGHAM Joseph. BILLINGHAM Ruth. Dudley, St Edmund. Dudley Register Office. 201/001/121.

Re: Ruth Ebroms /Ebrons

Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 10:17 pm
by Northern Lass
So we have this Ruth Ebroms born Wales
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =669195072

In 1842 she marries John Billingham
7 July 1842 St Marys Oldswinford
John Billingham- full- bach- chainmaker- Careless Green- Thomas Billingham- nailer
Ruth Ebroms- full - spinster- Careless Green - William Ebroms - miner
banns
X both
Wit- X James Billingham/ Mary Ann Fudge

and on later census she is living next door to Ann Edmonds
who may just be a neighbour and living near to Mary Ann Fudge too

rite lost it now
:shock: