linell wrote:Hi NL, what a conundrum Think this family are connected:-
1841 Five Ways Cradley Heath EDMONDS, William M 35 1806 Staffordshire EDMONDS, Ann F 35 1806 Staffordshire EDMONDS, Isiah M 13 1828 Staffordshire EDMONDS, Elizebeth F 12 1829 Staffordshire EDMONDS, Edwin M 11 1830 Staffordshire EDMONDS, Nancy F 8 1833 Staffordshire EDMONDS, Meriah F 6 1835 Staffordshire EDMONDS, William M 2 1839 Staffordshire EDMONDS, Josiah M 0 (9 months) 1841 Staffordshire
Linell.
The two previous households are the Witnesses:- William Fudge 28 Stone Miner No Mary 30
James Billingham 20 Chainmaker (brother of John?) Mary 30
linell wrote:1851 Cradley Heath:- EDMONDS, Ann Head Widow F 58 1793 Kingswinford EDMONDS, Isaiah Son Unmarried M 26 1825 Chain Maker Rowley EDMONDS, Elizabeth Daughter Unmarried F 24 1827 Chain Maker Rowley EDMONDS, Edwin Son Unmarried M 21 1830 Chain Maker Rowley EDMONDS, Nancy Daughter Unmarried F 18 1833 Chain Maker Rowley EDMONDS, William Son M 12 1839 Chain Maker Rowley EDMONDS, Josiah Son M 10 1841 Chain Maker Rowley EDMONDS, Ann Maria Grand Daughter F 2 1849 Rowley EDMONDS, Mary Grand Daughter F 0 (6 MOS) 1851 Rowley EDMONDS, Moat Daughter F 14 1837 Rowley
EDMONDS, Ann Maria Grand Daughter F 2 1849 Rowley EDMONDS, Mary Grand Daughter F 0 (6 MOS) 1851 Rowley Are the above Elizabeth's children I wonder?
Jimmy wrote:1861. High St, Rowley Regis. Ruth Billingham 41. Widow. born, Blenavern, Monmouthshire. chainmaker. Thomas Billingham 13. Adam Billingham 12. Samuel Billingham 4.
24-10-1847. Mary Ann Billingham. Baptised Netherton.Born 12-7-1847 Parents Joseph and Ruth Billingham. 24-6-1849. Albert Billingham. Baptised Netherton.Died 1866 age 18 yrs. Parents Joseph and Ruth Billingham 30-7-1854. Uriah Billingham.(female) Baptised Netherton. Parents Joseph and Ruth Billingham 30-7-1854. Keriah Billingham. Baptised Netherton. Parents Joseph and Ruth Billingham. (Information from http://billingham.freehostia.com/Billin ... Births.htm This Albert fits for age, but none of the others match)
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Jimmy wrote:1861. High St, Rowley Regis. Ruth Billingham 41. Widow. born, Blenavern, Monmouthshire. chainmaker. Thomas Billingham 13. Adam Billingham 12. Samuel Billingham 4.
24-10-1847. Mary Ann Billingham. Baptised Netherton.Born 12-7-1847 Parents Joseph and Ruth Billingham. 24-6-1849. Albert Billingham. Baptised Netherton.Died 1866 age 18 yrs. Parents Joseph and Ruth Billingham 30-7-1854. Uriah Billingham.(female) Baptised Netherton. Parents Joseph and Ruth Billingham 30-7-1854. Keriah Billingham. Baptised Netherton. Parents Joseph and Ruth Billingham. (Information from http://billingham.freehostia.com/Billin ... Births.htm This Albert fits for age, but none of the others match)
This could be this family. 1851. Mushroom, Dudley. Jos Billingham 25. Chain maker. Ruth Billingham 32. Mary A Billingham 3. Albert Billingham 2. Mary Mountford 17. Servant. Esther Billingham 12. Visitor.
1861 Darby and Pargeters Colliery Foxoak Street Cradley Heath:- PRITCHARD, Thomas Head Married M 33 1828 Coal Miner Bromsgrove EDMONDS, Isaiah Head Unmarried M 38 1823 Chain Maker Rowley Elizabeth Bilin (Billingham on Image) Sister Married F 30 1831 Chain Maker Rowley EDMONDS, Josiah Nephew M 3 1858 Rowley EDMONDS, Ann Niece F 1 1860 Rowley
Linell.
I take it that these are Elizabeth Billingham's children, doesn't look like she ever married??
EDMONDS, Josiah Nephew M 3 1858 Rowley EDMONDS, Ann Niece F 1 1860 Rowley
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This must be them in 1851 Cradley Heath, Ruth's place of birth is NK, so could be Wales?
BILLINGHAM, John Head Married M 28 1823 Chain Maker Rowley BILLINGHAM, Ruth Wife Married F 31 1820 NK BILLINGHAM, William Son M 7 1844 Rowley BILLINGHAM, Thomas Son M 3 1848 Rowley BILLINGHAM, Adam Son M 2 1849 Rowley BILLINGHAM, James Brother Married M 33 1818 Chain Maker Rowley BILLINGHAM, Maryann Sister-In-Law Married F 31 1820 Dudley
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1851. George Billingham 58. Nancy Billingham 57. John Billingham 30. Sarah Billingham 27.
Don't think that is them Jimmy, John's father was Thomas Looks as though the family lived in and around Cradley Heath??
Linell.
1851. Mushroom, Dudley. Jos Billingham 25. Chain maker. Ruth Billingham 32. Mary A Billingham 3. Albert Billingham 2. Mary Mountford 17. Servant. Esther Billingham 12. Visitor.
1861. Mushroom Green. George Billingham 68. Ann Billingham 73. Mary Ann Billingham 13. Grand Dau. Albert Billingham 12. Grandson Kesiah Billingham 9. Grand Dau. Uriah Billingham 7. Grandson.
In 1842 she marries John Billingham 7 July 1842 St Marys Oldswinford John Billingham- full- bach- chainmaker- Careless Green- Thomas Billingham- nailer Ruth Ebroms- full - spinster- Careless Green - William Ebroms - miner banns X both Wit- X James Billingham/ Mary Ann Fudge
and on later census she is living next door to Ann Edmonds who may just be a neighbour and living near to Mary Ann Fudge too