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Re: Rose Zillah Parkes and Allen Family

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:18 pm
by mumbles
I think this marriage is sound :-
West Midlands Marriage 1867.
PARKES Joseph, ALLEN Ann. Halesowen, St John the Baptist Dudley Register Office. 014/003/302.
As it ties up with birth of Rose Zillah Parkes in 1867/68
The Mary R. Tromans marriage :-
West Midlands Marriage 1857.
ALLEN James, TROMANS Mary R. Oldswinford, St Mary Dudley Register Office. 003/006/76.
Also looks the right one
Christian J. Allen also marries and in 1901 Census calls a daughter Rebecca and a son James
Whether same Mary Rebecca Tromans as one already on bcc may need marriage look up

Re: Rose Zillah Parkes and Allen Family

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:26 pm
by Northern Lass
add what you want looked up Mumbles

:wink:

Re: Rose Zillah Parkes and Allen Family

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:28 pm
by peterd
Maths girl wrote:
peterd wrote:

now to prove it all


Peterd - I've lost track on this one - what are you trying to prove? Can you summarize where you are?




most of it was a submitted tree out of ancestrial file they got there data fron the igi extracts which i am trying to find to back up the submitted ancestrial file what we will need know is census info to prove the igi right then we have two different source of info

pete

Re: Rose Zillah Parkes and Allen Family

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 12:13 am
by peterd
note the witness to mark and ann parkes wedding

bcc http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =317149554



Marriage info by Jan
7 November 1841 St Thomas Dudley
-Mark Parkes of full age- bachelor- labourer- Gosty Hill Parish of Rowley Regis- Mark Parkes- Labourer
-Ann Parkes- minor- spinster- Gosty Hill- John Parkes - labourer
banns
X both
Wit- Thomas Allen and Joseph Hill

Re: Rose Zillah Parkes and Allen Family

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 7:51 am
by linell
I thought Thomas Allen was a Church Official, on many Marriage Entries, but there again he must have had family too :!:

Linell.

Re: Rose Zillah Parkes and Allen Family

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 9:20 am
by mumbles
Peterd has kindly posted relevant marriage look ups and if Mary Rebecca Tromans is the one already on bcc father should be Jason Tromans.
I will insert Census details and wait for look ups

Re: Rose Zillah Parkes and Allen Family

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 9:42 am
by mumbles
Mary Rebecca Parsons married a second time to Benjamin Johnson in 1880 :-
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =0&ccpid=4
I will add look up to try and identify Benjamin as there are a number born in RR in 1844

Re: Rose Zillah Parkes and Allen Family

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 11:26 am
by mumbles
Whilst researching Rose Zillah Parkes and Her Husband Henry Hiscocks I found a big error in 1881 Census:-
1871 Census Halesowen Street Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Henry Hiscock Head 36 Miner born Dudley Worcs.
Sarah Hiscock wife 35 Nailer
Henry Hiscock son 5
Joseph Hiscock son 2
Sarah A. Hiscock 6mths.
Rest born Rowley Regis Staffs.

1881 Census no.3 Gosty Hill Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Henry Hiscocks Head 45 Coal Miner born Netherton Worcs.
Sarah Hiscocks wife 45 born Cakemore Worcs.
Alice Hiscocks dau 3 born Rowley Regis Staffs.
and next door Frederick Edwards Head 22 Iron Cock Fitter born Handsworth Staffs.

1881 Census Part of Cottage Hill Halesowen Stourbridge Worcs.
Frederick Edwards Head 22 Iron Cock Fitter born Gib. Heath Handsworth Staffs.
Jane Edwards wife 21 born Birmingham
Heneritta Edwards dau 4 born Birmingham
Frederick Edwards son 1 born Birmingham
Henry Hiscocks son 15 Rivet Factory
Joseph Hiscock son 13 Rivet Factory
Sarah A. Hiscock 10 Scholar
John Thomas Hiscocks son 8 Scholar
Hiscocks all born Blackheath Staffs.

These are children of Henry and Sarah and Frederick is duplicated or as an Iron Cock Fitter he made a Cock Up when filling in Census Return

Re: Rose Zillah Parkes and Allen Family

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 5:49 pm
by Northern Lass
The look up for the Clent marriage for Mark Parkes and for Nancy Bolton
is at the top of the section as a sticky
the thread was for this one

Re: Rose Zillah Parkes and Allen Family

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:40 am
by Northern Lass
Sorry guys what are you doing on this one?
do you want it left here?
or archived pending look ups?

:?

Re: Rose Zillah Parkes and Allen Family

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 2:58 pm
by mumbles
Archive Pending Look ups Nl

Re: Rose Zillah Parkes and Allen Family

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:53 pm
by peterd
leave it for a while i put some of that parkes info on

Re: Rose Zillah Parkes and Allen Family

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 6:43 pm
by peterd
Philemon and family added


http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =160899336


we have his son poss married to ann allen will want linked up when marriage look up is done



think this is philemon father on bcc

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =169605705


what do you think nl should i connect it

Re: Rose Zillah Parkes and Allen Family

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:03 pm
by Northern Lass
I dunno Pete
wot do you think is there enuff evidence
not following this thread
you are a seasoned op.....the call is yours just back up your decision in the notes
:wink:

Re: Rose Zillah Parkes and Allen Family

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:29 pm
by peterd
Going to link them on the two piece of evidence i have

1841 Gorsty Hill RR
Mark Parkes 45 nailer y
Ann Parkes 45 y
Mark Parkes 20 y
Philiman Parkes 10 y


Philemon is few years out on census but weve seen this before


MARK PARKES
Christening: 18 SEP 1822 Halesowen, Worcester, England

Father: MARK PARKES
Mother: ANN

and

PHILEMON PARKES
Christening: 15 APR 1827 Halesowen, Worcester, England


Father: MARK PARKES
Mother: ANN


linked

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =407483170

will add the rest tommorrow