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Re: Maria & Reuben Worthington

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 10:29 pm
by Maths girl
Jimmy wrote:1881. Wednesfield.
Joseph Worthington 42. Furnaceman (Fac Lab).
Mary Ann Worthington 40.
Ruben Worthington 14. born: Monmer Lane Willenhall.
Lois Ann Worthington 8.
Harriet Worthington 6.
Mary Ann Worthington 4.
William George Worthington. 5 mon.
Joseph Albridge 22. Son in Law.
Louisa Albridge 20. Dau.

Marriages Sep 1861.
BARMER Jane Wolverhampton 6b 511.
Foster John Wolverhampton 6b 511.
Haden Mary Ann Wolverhampton 6b 511.
Worthington Joseph Wolverhampton 6b 511.


Jimmy wrote:Marriages Dec 1889.
BENTON Francis. Wolverhampton. 6b. 876.
PACE Harriet. Wolverhampton. 6b. 876.
Watterson Ann Maria . Wolverhampton. 6b. 876.
WORTHINGTON Reuben. Wolverhampton. 6b. 876.

1891.
Reuben Worthington 24. Steam Hammer Driver (Smith) born Willenhall/
Maria Worthington 22. Darlaston
Harriett Worthington 6 weeks. Heath, Staffordshire


peterd wrote: 1901 His Majestys Prison

Maria Worthington 29

1901 Coventry St, Wolverhampton
Reuben Worthington 33 Engine Drive
Arthur Worthington 7
Elizabeth Worthington 4
Saml Tonks 34 Key Maker b in law
Louisa Tonks 28 sister


Maths girl wrote:1911 12 Holcroft Street Ettingshall Lane Whton
WORTHINGTON, Reuben Head Married M 43 1868 Stationary Engine Driver Willenhall Staffordshire
WORTHINGTON, Mary Wife Married F 35 1876 Willenhall Staffordshire
WORTHINGTON, Florence Daughter F 5 1906 Bilston Staff
WORTHINGTON, Lily Daughter F 3 1908 Wolverhampton Staff
WORTHINGTON, Louisa Daughter F 0 (11 MONTHS) 1911 Wolverhampton Staff
WORTHINGTON, Phoebe Daughter F 0 (1 MONTH) 1911 Wolverhampton Staff


So we have Reuben
married in 1889 to Anna Maria
1891 living with Maria
1901 Alone but MAria in Prison
1911 Married to Mary - Marriage stated as 8 years - did he marry a Mary as well as a MAria?? -If so there will ba a marriage about 1903!!

Re: Maria & Reuben Worthington

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:08 pm
by peterd
thats if its the same reubens? if so where elizabeth in 1911 as she would be 14 ?

Re: Maria & Reuben Worthington

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:08 am
by Jimmy
peterd wrote:1901 Coventry St, Wolverhampton
Reuben Worthington 33 Engine Drive
Arthur Worthington 7
Elizabeth Worthington 4
Saml Tonks 34 Key Maker b in law
Louisa Tonks 28 sister

all born Wolverhampton


Did your Reuben have a sister.

Marriages Mar 1893.
Bird William. Wolverhampton. 6b. 704.
Haynes Annie. Wolverhampton. 6b. 704.
Tonke Samuel. Wolverhampton. 6b. 704.
Tonks Samuel. Wolverhampton. 6b. 704.
Worthington Louisa. Wolverhampton. 6b. 704.

Re: Maria & Reuben Worthington

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:02 am
by Jimmy
Jimmy wrote:1881. Wednesfield.
Joseph Worthington 42. Furnaceman (Fac Lab).
Mary Ann Worthington 40.
Ruben Worthington 14. born: Monmer Lane Willenhall.
Lois Ann Worthington 8.
Harriet Worthington 6.
Mary Ann Worthington 4.
William George Worthington. 5 mon.
Joseph Albridge 22. Son in Law.
Louisa Albridge 20. Dau.


Marriages Jun 1880.
Allridge Joseph William. Wolverhampton. 6b. 620.
Bartram Elizabeth. Cannock 6b. 620.
Dale Eliza Wolverhampton. 6b. 620.
Turton John Wolverhampton. 6b. 620.
Worthington Louisa Wolverhampton. 6b 620.

Re: Maria & Reuben Worthington

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 6:33 pm
by peterd
louisa couldnt be 20 and sister in 1881 then 28 and sister in 1901 unless she 40 instead of 20 and why use here maiden name if she was married to john Albridge in 1881

could it be poss were dealing with two reubens both with louisa as sister ?

Re: Maria & Reuben Worthington

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 7:47 pm
by Maths girl
Just to confuse things completely look at this couple in

1871 52 Union Street,
Reuben Worthington 34 Mar "Prid Frow Maker" - Your guess is as good as mine!!
Louisa Worthington 20 Mar
Joseph Prophet 30 Lodger Widower Locksmith

All born Willenhall

Is this brother of Joseph?

Re: Maria & Reuben Worthington

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 7:58 pm
by Maths girl
Jimmy wrote:1881. Wednesfield.
Joseph Worthington 42. Furnaceman (Fac Lab).
Mary Ann Worthington 40.
Ruben Worthington 14. born: Monmer Lane Willenhall.
Lois Ann Worthington 8.
Harriet Worthington 6.
Mary Ann Worthington 4.
William George Worthington. 5 mon.
Joseph Albridge 22. Son in Law.
Louisa Albridge 20. Dau.

Marriages Sep 1861.
BARMER Jane Wolverhampton 6b 511.
Foster John Wolverhampton 6b 511.
Haden Mary Ann Wolverhampton 6b 511.
Worthington Joseph Wolverhampton 6b 511.



1871 Willenhall
George Upperdine 23
Harriet Upperdine 23
Robert Haden 56
Ann Haden 57
Louisa Worthington 9

Is this one of the Louisa's and if so which one? - Ancestry can't find the original image at the moment

Re: Maria & Reuben Worthington

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 5:05 am
by dianel
Jimmy wrote:Marriages Dec 1889.
BENTON Francis. Wolverhampton. 6b. 876.
PACE Harriet. Wolverhampton. 6b. 876.
Watterson Ann Maria . Wolverhampton. 6b. 876.
WORTHINGTON Reuben. Wolverhampton. 6b. 876.


1871
At Willenhall St., Darlaston
James Watterson Head 28 Latch Maker
Ann Maria Watterson Wife 27
Ann Maria Watterson Daur 6 mths
All born Darlaston

Re: Maria & Reuben Worthington

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 9:57 am
by Jimmy
Maths girl wrote:1871 Willenhall
George Upperdine 23
Harriet Upperdine 23
Robert Haden 56
Ann Haden 57
Louisa Worthington 9

Is this one of the Louisa's and if so which one? - Ancestry can't find the original image at the moment


1871. Bloxwich Rd,
George Upperdine 23. head. labourer. Brewood, Staffs.
Harriet Upperdine 23. wife. Water Heath, Staffs.
Robert Haden 56. lodger head. labourer. Brewood, Staffs.
Ann Haden 57. lodgers wife. Brewood, Staffs.
Louisa Worthington 9. lodgers daughter. Willenhall, Staffs.

Re: Maria & Reuben Worthington

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 9:53 am
by kdw
Woverhampton Marriages
10 Nov 1889 Reuben Worthington 22 b Hammer driver Wednesfield Joseph Worthington Iron worker & Ann Maria Watterson 20 s x Wednesfield Joseph Watterson Forger B Enoch Mattox & Mary Elizabeth Green John Birch Wednesfield

23 Sep 1861 Joseph Worthington 21 b Keymaker Wednesfield Joseph Worthington Lockmaker & Mary Ann Haden 19 s Wednesfield Robert Haden Waggoner B John George Haden & Jane Small C.B.Twiss Wednesfield

Re: Maria & Reuben Worthington

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 10:44 am
by kdw
Wolverhampton Baptisms

6 Dec 1883 Florence Ann dau.of Joseph & Mary Ann WORTHINGTON Willenhall Road Furnaceman T.W.Wilkes Heath Town

3 Apr 1886 Joseph son of Joseph & Mary Ann WORTHINGTON Stowheath Iron worker T.W.Wilkes Heath Town

Re: Maria & Reuben Worthington

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 11:03 am
by kdw
Should Louisa Worthington in 1871 be the Grandaughter of Robert and Ann
Robert and Ann are the parents of Harriet

Marriages Mar 1869
Haden Harriett Wolverhampton 6b 596
Upperdine George Wolverhampton 6b 596

Re: Maria & Reuben Worthington

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 4:25 pm
by Maths girl
kdw wrote:Should Louisa Worthington in 1871 be the Grandaughter of Robert and Ann
Robert and Ann are the parents of Harriet

Marriages Mar 1869
Haden Harriett Wolverhampton 6b 596
Upperdine George Wolverhampton 6b 596


I believe she should be the grandaughter

Re: Maria & Reuben Worthington

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 5:13 pm
by peterd
1891.
Reuben Worthington 24. Steam Hammer Driver (Smith) born Willenhall/
Maria Worthington 22. Darlaston
Harriett Worthington 6 weeks. Heath, Staffordshire.


1901 His Majestys Prison

Maria Worthington 29



1901 Coventry St, Wolverhampton
Reuben Worthington 33 Engine Drive
Arthur Worthington 7
Elizabeth Worthington 4
Saml Tonks 34 Key Maker b in law
Louisa Tonks 28 sister

all born Wolverhampton


what i would like to know where ann maria after 1901 and where harriett, arthur, and elizabeth



Maths girl wrote:
1911 12 Holcroft Street Ettingshall Lane Whton
WORTHINGTON, Reuben Head Married M 43 1868 Stationary Engine Driver Willenhall Staffordshire
WORTHINGTON, Mary Wife Married F 35 1876 Willenhall Staffordshire
WORTHINGTON, Florence Daughter F 5 1906 Bilston Staff
WORTHINGTON, Lily Daughter F 3 1908 Wolverhampton Staff
WORTHINGTON, Louisa Daughter F 0 (11 MONTHS) 1911 Wolverhampton Staff
WORTHINGTON, Phoebe Daughter F 0 (1 MONTH) 1911 Wolverhampton Staff



if this is the same reubens then is maria dead ? but no kids from 1901 census ?

Re: Maria & Reuben Worthington

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 5:35 pm
by Maths girl
I should have been marking but that is nowhere near as exciting as trying to follow this family backwards: Sorry I haven't got all the references but it goes something like this:

Locksmiths and Key smiths run throughout these families
1841
Joseph and Jane Worthington are to be found with John b. 1835, Joseph b.1839 and Mary Ann born 1833
Sadly I think in 1848 Joseph dies in Wolverhampton ( we would need a certificate to confirm this)

1851
Jane has remarried James Small and is living with Fanny b. 1842, Eliza b.1845 and Reuben b.1847 and his two boys? from a previous marriage. John is found as an apprentice, - I can't find Joseph and Mary Ann

1861
John has married a Jane and they have had a child John E. in 1858
Jane is still with James and Joseph and Reuben are with them as stepsons. Joseph marries Mary Ann Haden later that year.

1871 Monnow Lane
Joseph Worthington 32
Maryann Worthington 29
Charlotte Worthington 6
Reuben Worthington 4
John George Worthington 2

Joseph and Maryann' eldest daughter, Louisa, (later Mrs Joseph Allridge), is with her maternal Grandparents Robert and Ann Haden and her aunt Harriet (Upperdine)

1871 Union Street
John Worthington 35
Jane Worthington 34
John E Worthington 12
Arthur Worthington 9
Sarah Ann Worthington 5
William Charles Worthington 3
Emily Worthington 1

1871 Union Street
Reuben Worthington 34 (original 24)
Louisa Worthington 20

1871 Jane
Smail
is still with James

1881 Monmow lane
Joseph Worthington 42
Mary Ann Worthington 40
Ruben Worthington 14
Lois Ann Worthington 8 - (I think this is the Louisa later Tonks - see 1901)
Harriet Worthington 6
Mary Ann Worthington 4
William George Worthington
Joseph Albridge 22
Louisa Albridge 20 (nee Worthington)

1881 Union Street
John Worthington 46
Jane Worthington 44
Arthur Worthington 19
Charles Worthington 13
Emily Worthington 11
Winifred Worthington 9
Georg Henry Worthington 1

1881 Froysell St
Reuben Worthington 34 Grid Iron Maker
Lois Worthington 30
Josiah Worthington 8
Frank Worthington 1
Joseph Leedham 40 Lodger

1891Willenhall Road
Joseph Worthington 52 Cinder Tap Wheeler
Mary Ann Worthington 50
Lois Worthington 18 (later Tonks)
John Worthington 10
Florence Worthington 7
Joseph Worthington 5

Next door
Reuben Worthington 24 Steam Hammer Driver
Maria Worthington 22
Harriett Worthington 6 weeks

1891 Union Street
John Worthington 56
Jane Worthington 53
George H Worthington 11

1891 Calves Croft
Ren (Reu?) Worthington 45 Lock Smith
Lois Worthington 40
AR Worthington 9 (Arthur?)
Anny Worthington 5

1901 Jones' Field New Road
Joseph Worthington 63
Mary Ann Worthington 50
John Worthington 19
Joseph Worthington 15
Florence Worthington 17

1901 Union Street
John Worthington 65
Jane Worthington 63
George Henry Worthington 20

1901 Russell Street
Ruben Worthington 54
Lois Worthington 50
Frank Worthington 21
Arthur Worthington 19
Josiah Evans 82

1901 WHERE IT ALL STARTED
Reuben Worthington 33 - Engine Driver
Arthur Worthington 7
Elizabeth Worthington 4
Saml Tonks 34
Louisa Tonks 28


I have lost a few sisters and brothers and children along the way - I have still not solved the mystery as to whether Reuben found a new Maria/Mary to marry before 1911 or what happened to Arthur and Elizabeth after 1901 but I have spent a lovely afternoon last in the past! Any Questions??