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Re: Lilian Eveline Victoria Griffiths
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:09 pm
by Dennis
I can see in 1911: William Griffiths 44 b. Princes End, Polly 39, married in about 1891, daughter Lily single b. about 1896 WB, all living at 15, Cronehill St, West Bromwich, 10 children in all by 1911. Must get to bed, more anon.
Re: Lilian Eveline Victoria Griffiths
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:11 pm
by Northern Lass
Dennis wrote:I can see in 1911: William Griffiths 44 b. Princes End, Polly 39, married in about 1891, daughter Lily single b. about 1896 WB, all living at 15, Cronehill St, West Bromwich, 10 children in all by 1911. Must get to bed, more anon.
What's his occup Dennis ?
the marriage is 1901 though

Re: Lilian Eveline Victoria Griffiths
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:05 pm
by Dennis
William Griffiths was an engine driver in a colliery. He married Polly c. 1891, by 1911 they had 10 children.
I'm still thinking about the similarity between the two names, NL, Lilian Eveline Victoria Griffiths and Lilian Victoria Griffiths, it seems too great to be coincidental. That said, there was a Lilian Victoria Griffiths born about September 1895 in West Bromwich (the one I mentioned) and also a Lilian Evelyn S. Griffiths born about June 1897 in Wolverhampton.
Re: Lilian Eveline Victoria Griffiths
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:26 pm
by Dennis
Sorry, I've been missing the main point

William Francis Griffiths the father. There were two born in the area in 1867, one in Tipton and one in West Bromwich. Polly's husband was indeed an engine driver. Polly = Mary, I presume.
Re: Lilian Eveline Victoria Griffiths
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:15 pm
by Northern Lass
So on the 1911 census William Griffiths with wife Polly is an engine driver
that has to be our lot then
2nd Dec 1916 Christchurch Oldbury
Samuel Beard- 26- bach- stoker- 52 Dudley Road- William Beard Labourer
Lilian Eveline Victoria Hadley- 21- widow- packer- 3?- Dudley Rd- William Francis Griffiths- Engine driverbanns
X Samuel/ Lilian signed
Wit- William Beard/Elizabeth Griffiths
1901
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
GRIFFITHS William F HOLDING Polly F West Bromwich Register Office Sandwell Register Office WBRO/36/138
Is this the full 1911 on this lot
I am a bit confused about the exact 1911 census is it this
1911: all living at 15, Cronehill St, West Bromwich,
William Griffiths 44 b. Princes End,
Polly 39,
Lily daughter single b. about 1896 WB,
and is this William Griffiths the one with father Edward/edwin?
Marriage is regis office so cant look it up
Re: Lilian Eveline Victoria Griffiths
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:07 am
by Dennis
This is the family in 1911:
William Griffiths, 44, Engine Driver Colliery, b. Princes End, Tipton;
Polly, 39, married 21 years, b. West Bromwich;
William, 19, single, Labourer on Surface at Colliery, b. W. Brom;
Ernest, 13, single, Labourer on Surface at Colliery, b. W. Brom;
Lily, 15, single, Stamper Washer Iron Holloware, b. W. Brom;
Arthur, 13, Help in Laundry, b. West Brom;
Then: Walter, 9; Edward, 7; Frank, 5; Henry, 3; John, 2; Louie, 6 months, all born in West Bromwich.
Re: Lilian Eveline Victoria Griffiths
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:37 pm
by Northern Lass
Dennis wrote:This is the family in 1911:
William Griffiths, 44, Engine Driver Colliery, b. Princes End, Tipton;
Polly, 39, married 21 years, b. West Bromwich;
William, 19, single, Labourer on Surface at Colliery, b. W. Brom;
Ernest, 13, single, Labourer on Surface at Colliery, b. W. Brom;
Lily, 15, single, Stamper Washer Iron Holloware, b. W. Brom;
Arthur, 13, Help in Laundry, b. West Brom;
Then: Walter, 9; Edward, 7; Frank, 5; Henry, 3; John, 2; Louie, 6 months, all born in West Bromwich.
Ok I think that is our Lilian with father
without ordering that marriage cert...which to be honest I am not doing...papering walls with all the spare ones i have!
do we think this is the one with father Edwin that Dennis flagged
really need to get more info .....
if anyone still wishes to run with this I will leave it open
so flagging for status

Re: Lilian Eveline Victoria Griffiths
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:29 pm
by Northern Lass
Can someone please add this to BCC on this link
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnectionsfill in fathers info and mothers info
and that marriage for them
also census info and sibs for Lilian
pls

Re: *Help pls adding to BCC* --Lilian Eveline Victoria Griffiths
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:13 pm
by Annie
Hi Northern Lass I will add this for you.
Annie
Re: *Help pls adding to BCC* --Lilian Eveline Victoria Griffiths
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:21 pm
by Northern Lass
thank you annie

Re: *Help pls adding to BCC* --Lilian Eveline Victoria Griffiths
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:05 pm
by Annie
Hi Norther Lass , I've added them anything I've missed or not done correct let me know & I will change tomorrow.
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =355456479Annie

Re: *Help pls adding to BCC* --Lilian Eveline Victoria Griffiths
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:14 pm
by Northern Lass
Hi Annie thank you for that
could you add the marriage to polly please too

Re: *Help pls adding to BCC* --Lilian Eveline Victoria Griffiths
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:00 pm
by Northern Lass
Will flag now to archive
Re: *Arc tbc* --Lilian Eveline Victoria Griffiths
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:00 am
by Rob
Let's hope you added it correctly Annie!!
Those are my relatives you know!!

xx