unaccounted johnson living in ross cottage

[Northern Lass]

1841
Shepards Fold RR
Henry Johnson 42 nailer y
Hetty ditto 41 n
Joseph ditto 18 y
Henrietta ditto 14 y
henry ditto 11 y
Eliza ditto 7 y
Jason? ditto 3 y
Albert ditto 1m y

1851
Powkes Lane RR
Joseph Johnson head m 29 nailer RR
Hannah ditto wife m 24 nailer RR
William Stokes lodger 12
Thomas Siviter visiter 9

1861 RR shepherds fold
Joseph Johnson h 39 warehouseman b RR
Hannah wife 34
Joseph son 5
harry 2
george 2mths

1871 Shepherds fold RR
Joseph Johnson 48 h Grocer
Hannah Johnson 43 wife
Joseph Johnson 15 son Carter
Harry Johnson 12 son scholar
Eliza Johnson 8 dau scholar
Maria Hipkiss 16 general servant b Worcs dudley
others b RR


1881 10 Ross Rowley Regis, Stafford
Joseph JOHNSON 58 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Nail Forger
Hannah JOHNSON 54 Rowley Regis, Stafford,

Is this our Harry?
is he in this family do we think?

[gardener]

I think so. Only Joseph Johnson snr is 39 in 1861, not 30.

Here are the Johnsons at Ross in 1881, same order as they come in the census.

44 Ross
Henry GADD Head W Male 71 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England
Joseph JOHNSON Boarder U Male 18 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Rivet Maker son of Henry and (Rose)Hannah at number 5

10 Ross
Joseph JOHNSON Head M Male 58 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Nail Forger
Hannah JOHNSON Wife M Female 54 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England

Ross Cottages
Harry L. JOHNSON Head M Male 22 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Nail Kaster
Mary A. JOHNSON Wife M Female 25 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England
Maud M. JOHNSON Daur Female 9 m Rowley Regis, Stafford, England

9 Ross
Joseph JOHNSON Head M Male 25 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Nail Forger And Grocer
Maria JOHNSON Wife M Female 26 Dudley, Worcester, England
Mary H. JOHNSON Daur Female 6 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Scholar
Harriet JOHNSON Daur Female 2 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England
Mabel JOHNSON Daur Female 1 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England

4 Ross
Eli JOHNSON M Male 29 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Colliery Lab
Maria JOHNSON M Female 29 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England
Mary A. JOHNSON Female 9 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Scholar
Alice JOHNSON Female 8 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Scholar
Sophia JOHNSON Female 5 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Scholar

5 Ross
Henry JOHNSON Head M Male 51 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Gardener
Rosannah JOHNSON Wife M Female 55 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England
Eliza JOHNSON Daur U Female 22 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England

Not sure how Eli relates but the others are all connected to each other I think.

[peterd]

eli some sort of cousin to them you can follow it through bcc

what troubling me if 1851 is the same joseph and hannah as in 1861 was there miscarriages as first kid born c 1856 and they were married before 1851 ?

[peterd]

this is the link to eli and harry

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =850386106


eli is Eli srn and martha priest son

and harry is henry and henrietta partridge granson


henry and eli srn are brothers

think ive got that right

[Northern Lass]

rite Peterd well get it added then


so are we sure that Hannah Mullett is our mother of Henry/harry Johnson

and is she Anna or Hannah
can someone add that marriage for look up pls

[peterd]

rite Peterd well get it added then


so are we sure that Hannah Mullett is our mother of Henry/harry Johnson

and is she Anna or Hannah
can someone add that marriage for look up pls

there allready on if harry l is actually harry z

but im still wondering about that 1851 and 1861 censuses ?

[gardener]

what troubling me if 1851 is the same joseph and hannah as in 1861 was there miscarriages as first kid born c 1856 and they were married before 1851 ?

Bothers me too.

[Northern Lass]

Shall I get the birth cert on this might be an idea see the name of mother
what do we think?

[peterd]

lets try to find a way around it or reafirm it

1851
Powkes Lane RR
Joseph Johnson head m 29 nailer RR
Hannah ditto wife m 24 nailer RR
William Stokes lodger 12
Thomas Siviter visiter 9

1861 RR shepherds fold
Joseph Johnson h 39 warehouseman b RR
Hannah wife 34
Joseph son 5 1855/6
harry 2
george 2mths



are the two visitors in 1851 kids of joseph and hannah bro or sisters ?


1841
Shepards Fold RR
Henry Johnson 42 nailer y
Hetty ditto 41 n
Joseph ditto 18 y
Henrietta ditto 14 y
henry ditto 11 y
Eliza ditto 7 y
Jason? ditto 3 y
Albert ditto 1m y

[Northern Lass]

Well Pete and the answer is?

[Northern Lass]

1844
JOHNSON Joseph MULLET Anna Dudley, St John The Evangelist, Kates Hill Dudley Register Office 203/001/1
that seems to be the Mullet marriage

will add this marriage see if it helps

father should be Henry
and Joseph a nailer

and she should have father Samuel??

[peterd]

Well Pete and the answer is?

carnt find a link around them carnt see no marriage connection either ?

[Northern Lass]

Have we got the birth on bmsgh I will order that birth cert
we gotta know!

[Northern Lass]

rite it is Sandwell or Gro
1858
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
JOHNSON Harry Z Rowley Regis Sandwell Register Office RR/27/117


Births Dec 1858 Johnson Harry Zebudson Dudley 6c 2

so unless we want to run anymore with this going to archive pend cert info

and marriage look up for anna mullett

[mumbles]

1911 Census Ross Rowley Regis Staffs.
Alice Johnson Head 55 Wid.
Maud Taylor Dau 30 Wid.
Major Johnson son 29 Bricklayer
Edward Johnson son 23 Machinist Rivet
Thomas Johnson son 20 Boot Finisher
Ethel Taylor grd. Dau 5 born Staffs.
Rest Born Rowley Regis

Notes Alice had 10 Children , 6 living , 4 dead