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Re: Solomon Bate
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:22 pm
by dianel
I don't think Thomas Bradley is Emma's dad. I suspect Emma might have been illegitimate.

If that christening is her, then only the mother is named and that quite often indicates an illegitimate birth.
Note that Emma and Solomon are not recorded in the census as 'Bradley' until after Thomas' death.
So ... my theory is:
Elizabeth is born Elizabeth BATE - marriage look up might tell us if she was a widow when married to Thomas Bradley.
Emma is born Emma BATE - illegitimate
Solomon is born Solomon BATE - illegitimate
Re: Solomon Bate
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:39 pm
by dianel
Rob, as the census specifically states that Thomas Bradley is NOT Emma's father, you could put Elizabeth's first husband, the father of Emma as Unknown and put in Thomas Bradley as Elizabeth's second spouse.
The rest that you've put on BCC looks fine.
Re: Solomon Bate
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 8:17 am
by Jimmy
This match's your theory Di.
SOLOMON BATE.
Christening, 25 JAN 1857. Halesowen, Worcester.
Mother, EMMA BATE.
Re: Solomon Bate
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 8:45 am
by Northern Lass
Rob that looks fine but as Di says Unknown needed to go in so I have added that.
But can you add that marriage for Thomas Bradley by Emma bate
add that marriage date etc it looks good
add the bapts in notes as possibles if you are unsure I think they look good
so for Emma
and for Solomon
and we are all very proud of you.....group hug

Re: Solomon Bate
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 5:11 pm
by Rob
Your wish is my command O Queen!!
What am i your lackey?
Re: Solomon Bate
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 7:43 pm
by Northern Lass
Rob wrote:Your wish is my command O Queen!!
What am i your lackey?
I am just so proud of you Robert or may I call you Bob!
You have come from nowhere to be a solid member of our Genealogical circle
you have mucked in is that how you say it you Black Country natives...mucka...yow am bostin! ay ya!
is that rite!
We all love you and put up with your quirky humour but hey! who is perfect.
drop the queen bit Ma am will suffice
and lackey.....hmmm yeah you are
now shut up
get it on
and let's close this
I have loads of look ups to flippin post
xx
Re: Solomon Bate
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:18 pm
by Rob
Then we must open another thread about Thomas Bradley cos we don't khow who he is yet!!
Re: Solomon Bate
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:01 am
by Northern Lass
Jimmy wrote:This match's your theory Di.
SOLOMON BATE.
Christening, 25 JAN 1857. Halesowen, Worcester.
Mother, EMMA BATE.
Rob I have added this for you!

Re: Solomon Bate
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:03 am
by Northern Lass
For some unknown reason you added it to Emma!
come on!!!
it goes on Solomon....ie his bapt
and this one
EMMA BATE
Christening: 26 FEB 1837 Halesowen, Worcester, England
Age at Christening: 9
Mother: ELIZABETH BATE
I will add
attention to detail pls Robert
Re: Solomon Bate
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:05 am
by Northern Lass
and you havent added that marriage of Elizabeth Bate and Thomas Bradley
wagging my finger at you!!

Re: Solomon Bate
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:06 am
by Northern Lass
dianel wrote:IGI Extracted entry:
THOMAS BRADLEY
Spouse: ELIZABETH BATE
Marriage: 09 SEP 1833 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick, England
Interesting ... this marriage is around the same time that Emma was born.
This one here!
it it had teeth it would bite you!
Re: Solomon Bate
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:08 am
by Northern Lass
And.....listen carefully
her name is Elizabeth Bate not Bradley

Re: Solomon Bate
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:11 am
by Northern Lass
and 2 more things
the census goes on the head of hsehold so should have gone on Thomas Bradley where he was head
and
as you know cos you are a variant seeker
we keep to one
so Bate should have been Bates
but don't worry you will master it soon

Re: Solomon Bate
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:40 am
by Northern Lass
Ok flagging now to archive as I have tweaked the bits that needed tweaking
but nice one Rob 7/10

Re: *Arc tbc* --Solomon Bate
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 2:02 pm
by Rob
I will master it eventually NL i promise!!
There's no excuse!! As Variant Seeker i should know better!!
