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Re: Robert Smith born about 1907

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:20 pm
by grangers14

Re: Robert Smith born about 1907

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:50 pm
by Northern Lass
Thanks Jo...

Flagging to archive now

Re: *Arc tbc* ---Robert Smith born about 1907

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 4:52 pm
by Northern Lass
Ok look up has been done


now what do we do with this one
father for Eliza Priest is a George Priest
did they mean to put George Willetts?
She is dau on census

I am inclined to keep George as father but add a note

what do we think
oh and George Priest is a miner

Re: UPDATE look up for JO done!---Robert Smith born about 1907

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:04 pm
by Northern Lass
Marriage info<br>
25 Dec 1867 St Thomas<br>
Benjamin Smith X - 23- bach- miner- Dudley- Daniel Smith- miner<br>
Eliza Priest X - 20- spinster- Dudley- George Priest- miner<br>
Wit- Phillip Southall X / Ann Smith X

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =739696165

Re: UPDATE look up for JO done!---Robert Smith born about 1907

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:16 pm
by grangers14
Oh we have been cursed with problem look ups havent we? :roll:
Jo :?

Re: UPDATE look up for JO done!---Robert Smith born about 1907

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 6:18 pm
by grangers14
I dont think I put and not seen 1861 census on bcc, sorry if I'm repeating. George Willetts was a labourer on all census too??
I dont think this helps really, other than looking for a marriage of a George Priest to a Pheobe?? or 1841 for them together?
1861 Census
Peartree Street, Rowley Regis.
George Willetts, head, 60, Dock Lab,
David, son, 23, Stone Miner,
Joseph Brooks, Boarder, 12,stone miner
/Phebe Priest, w, 52, Nail Maker
Eliza, daur, 14, Nail Maker
Jane Priest, daur, 10
All born Rowley

Re: UPDATE look up for JO done!---Robert Smith born about 1907

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 6:28 pm
by grangers14
Maria dau 17 b RR
Eliza dau age 4 - think she is the wit on Marias marriage to Joseph Harper in 1864 an Eliza Priest.


Is that marriage somewhere? It isnt on Maria on here?
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =734640179

Re: UPDATE look up for JO done!---Robert Smith born about 1907

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 6:46 pm
by Northern Lass
Jo it is all on there marias
.......
2nd marriage
24 April 1864 St Marks Pensnett
-Joseph Harper- 33 - widower- miner- Dudley - John Harper- Gentleman
-Maria Russ- 30- widow-Dudley-James Tromans- nailer
banns
X of both
Wit- John Harper and Eliza Priest?

and George willetts on 1841 with wife Jane who dies then he is on 1851 all in his notes

I think from memory we did all this ages ago looked into Phoebe priest
I think we leave Eliza with father George willetts and maybe confirm by birth cert if we can find one

Re: UPDATE look up for JO done!---Robert Smith born about 1907

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 7:19 pm
by grangers14
Sorry NL it is :oops: but from the page it was just showing unknown unkown and I hadnt clicked on her! That must be because of Pheobe Russ born but Robert had died.
I agree from the census she is down as daur and Jane had been put as daur in law, making a difference.
Just the miner thing. But had worse the last few days! :lol:
1861 census isnt on for George and later so I will add that. Will make more sense with adding thing up. See phoebe on 1841 is there on her own.
Jo :)

Re: UPDATE look up for JO done!---Robert Smith born about 1907

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 7:24 pm
by grangers14
This is what is showing for possible births for Eliza Priest, can be narrowed down, with name and area. Can the be checked with ref?
West Midlands Birth indexes for the years: 1847
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
PRIEST Eliza Halesowen Dudley Register Office HAL/007/353
PRIEST Eliza Rowley Regis Sandwell Register Office RR/10/269
PRIEST Eliza Rowley Regis Sandwell Register Office RR/11/155
PRIEST Elizabeth Kingswinford Dudley Register Office KIN/020/481



West Midlands Birth indexes for the years: 1848
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
PRIEST Eliza J Sedgley Dudley Register Office SEG/026/27
PRIEST Eliza Dudley Dudley Register Office DUD/031/345
PRIEST Elizabeth Sedgley Dudley Register Office SEG/026/106



West Midlands Birth indexes for the years: 1849
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
PRIEST Eliza Rowley Regis Sandwell Register Office RR/12/447
PRIEST Elizabeth Kingswinford Dudley Register Office KIN/025/50

Re: UPDATE look up for JO done!---Robert Smith born about 1907

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 7:28 pm
by grangers14
Would you think just this 2?

Births 1847,
PRIEST Eliza Rowley Regis Sandwell Register Office RR/10/269
PRIEST Eliza Rowley Regis Sandwell Register Office RR/11/155

Re: UPDATE look up for JO done!---Robert Smith born about 1907

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 7:31 pm
by grangers14
Or include Willetts although she showed as Priest?
births 1847,
WILLETTS Eliza Rowley Regis Sandwell Register Office RR/10/305
WILLETTS Eliza Rowley Regis Sandwell Register Office RR/10/329

Not wanting to add more work for you mind! :o
Jo :)

Re: UPDATE look up for JO done!---Robert Smith born about 1907

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 7:32 pm
by grangers14
Corras just started so will catch you soon :lol:

Re: UPDATE look up for JO done!---Robert Smith born about 1907

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:25 pm
by Northern Lass
The more I think on this the more I think we disconnect her from George Willetts
and add father as George priest ...which may be a spoof name

cos if Jane is dau in law how can Eliza born learlier be dau!

1871 Census
Pear Tree Street, Rowley Regis,
George Willetts, head, W, 72, Labourer at Furnace
Jane Priest, daur in Law, 19, Nail Maker
George Priest, grand son in law, 2
Emanual Priest, nephew, 42,Nail Maker
Benjamin Smith, 27, Boarder son in law, Coal Miner,
Eliza, daur, 24, nail maker
Sarah J Priest, grand daur, 5,
John Homer, Boarder, 49, Nail Maker
All born Rowley Regis

Re: UPDATE look up for JO done!---Robert Smith born about 1907

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:51 pm
by grangers14
Emanuel may be odd too?? Or am I just reading in to this?
1871 Census
Pear Tree Street, Rowley Regis,
George Willetts, head, W, 72, Labourer at Furnace
Jane Priest, daur in Law, 19, Nail Maker
George Priest, grand son in law, 2,
Emanual Priest, nephew, 42,Nail Maker
Benjamin Smith, 27, Boarder son in law, Coal Miner,
Eliza, daur, 24, nail maker
Sarah J Priest, grand daur, 5,
John Homer, Boarder, 49, Nail Maker
All born Rowley Regis

1881 Census
20, Pear Tree Street, Rowley Regis,
Benjamin Smith, head, 36, Coal Miner, Dudley
Eliza, wife, 34, Staple maker
Sarah J, daur, 15, Staple maker,
William, son, 10,
George, son, 8,
David, son, 4,
Mary A, daur, 1,
George Willetts, boarder, w, 82,
Emmanuel Willetts, boarder, 52, Nail maker,
Ruth Green, Boarder, 21, nail Maker
All others born Rowley regis