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Re: Boatmen

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:46 pm
by Fotofunguy
I have personal knowledge and can easily identify most of the people listed in the funeral notice except Jane; I have no idea who she was or who her family were.

It is also worth noting that "dad" sent a floral tribute, so I assume that William Henry Sr. was still alive when his son of the same name passed on.

William Henry GLOVER Jr. was buried in a simple grave in Victoria Road cemetery, Quarry Bank.

I paid a personal visit last year, the chapel has been demolished and like so many more grave yards it is in a rather sorry state I'm afraid.

Fotofunguy :cry:

Re: Boatmen

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:14 pm
by peterd
so is william srn one of these ?

c 1871 so first one he wolud be 83 second 92 ?


GLOVER William H 1854 - Sedgley West Midlands Dudley Register Office SEG/024/322

GLOVER William H 1863 - Sedgley West Midlands Dudley Register Office SEG/040/80

Re: Boatmen

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:23 pm
by Fotofunguy
I'm fairly sure that I've tried those two, plus umpteen more. There are several that seem to fit the bill.

I'll sort out the ones that I have tried but it will take me some time because of recent hard drive problems.

Fotofunguy

Re: Boatmen

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:09 am
by kdw
Hi Have you tried writing to Mr John Roberts, he helped me find my husbands Canal boat people.
Heres the link for him
http://www.canalmuseum.org.uk/collectio ... istory.htm

Re: Boatmen

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:02 pm
by Fotofunguy
Thanks for the advice I will write to Mr Roberts as you suggest.

Re: Boatmen

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 7:34 pm
by Northern Lass
peterd wrote:1901 11 mount pleasant quarry bank

William Glover 30 Labourer iron works, Dudley,
Elizabeth Glover 28 Brierley Hill
William Glover 5 Brierley Hill
Lily Glover 2 Brierley Hill
Florence E Glover 1 Brierley Hill


ffg...is this family deffo your William

I am adding your William Henry Glover to Connections
but need to verify stuff

Re: Boatmen

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 7:35 pm
by Northern Lass
mumbles wrote:1911 Census 11,Mount Pleasant Quarry Bank Kingswinford Stourbridge Worcs.
William Glover Head 40 Labourer Blast Furnace born Not Known England
Elizabeth Glover wife 39 born Brierley Hill Staffs.
William Glover son 15 Brickmaker
Lily Glover dau 13 School
Florence Glover dau 10 School
Charles Glover son 9
Henry Glover son 6
George Glover son 3
Elizabeth Glover dau 2
Rest born 11, Mount Pleasant

It would appear that William was probably not born at Brierley Hill as noted in 1901 Census


and again are these the kids you have
which is your descendant?

Re: Boatmen

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 7:38 pm
by Northern Lass
kdw wrote:Could this be him in 1881
William Glover
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Gender: Male

Civil parish: Vessels
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address: "Willey"
Occupation: Boatman

Registration district: Stourbridge
Sub-registration district: Kingswinford
ED, institution, or vessel: Willey


this one I find interesting

why is this not him?
if the 1901 and 1911 are deffo yours cos of the kids then .....hmmm still interesting

Re: Boatmen

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 7:45 pm
by Northern Lass
peterd wrote:Fotofunguy,

did william have a younger brother charles any more siblings ?

of the web
"My Grandfather was Charles Glover the younger brother of your grandfather William. I too am having great dificulty in trying to track down the elusive Samuel Glover!

On my Granfathers birth Certificate William Glover was no longer a boatman, but a colliery labourer - I guess he lef t|help|the waterways due to lack of jobs growing family etc.

I note that your last posting was in Nov - I was wondering if you had made any headway with your search - If so I would be greatful for any info you may have."


So Wm Snr was a boatman then a collier labourer

and that census info is good
ie
wm son
Charles son
yes???

Re: Boatmen

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 7:47 pm
by Northern Lass
1871
GLOVER William H Bloxwich Walsall Register Office BLX/022/074

1872
GLOVER William J H Stourbridge Dudley Register Office STO/059/180

1873
GLOVER William H Dudley Dudley Register Office DUD/131/423

have we a death for Wm Henry snr

Re: Boatmen

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 7:55 pm
by peterd
Northern Lass wrote:1871
GLOVER William H Bloxwich Walsall Register Office BLX/022/074

1872
GLOVER William J H Stourbridge Dudley Register Office STO/059/180

1873
GLOVER William H Dudley Dudley Register Office DUD/131/423

have we a death for Wm Henry snr



william henry srn out live william jrn in obitiuary

Re: Boatmen

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 8:00 pm
by Northern Lass
1947
GLOVER William H Kingswinford Stourbridge Register Office KIN/15B/10

so that is jnr

and one of these snr

1951
GLOVER William Kingswinford Stourbridge Register Office KIN/20B/356

age=80
down as Rowley Regis on ances checks as age 80---march qtr


1957
GLOVER William H Stourbridge Stourbridge Register Office STO/103/258

age = 86 if b 1871
on ancestry the one dying in 1957 is age 82 Jun qtr Stourbridge



1966
GLOVER William H Stourbridge Stourbridge Register Office STO/01A/60

age = 95 if b 1871
on ancestry the one dying in 1966 is age 85 June qtr

so looks like the first one

Re: Boatmen

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 8:36 pm
by Fotofunguy
1947 GLOVER William H Kingswinford Stourbridge Register Office KIN/15B/10 - This is definitely my Grandfather

As for my Great Grandfather I have him down as passing away in 1957 ten years after his son had died, the other two are obvious possibilities so I must recheck.

Regarding birth for my Great Grandfather; Dudley have informed me today that they have checked 5 years each side of 1871 and although they do have William Henry GLOVER's recorded none have the father's name of Samuel which is clearly shown on William Henry's marriage certificate.

According to FreeBMD there are 314 William GLOVER's listed in the period 1864 - 1875 nation wide. Hey Ho!!

Re: Boatmen

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 8:44 pm
by Northern Lass
kdw wrote:Could this be him in 1881
William Glover
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Gender: Male

Civil parish: Vessels
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address: "Willey"
Occupation: Boatman

Registration district: Stourbridge
Sub-registration district: Kingswinford
ED, institution, or vessel: Willey


then in that case if they have done a sweep 2 yrs either side of 1871 so 1869-1873

then this one looks even more interesting
1865
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
GLOVER William H Dudley Dudley Register Office DUD/098/371


wonder if his father is a samuel boatman

Re: Boatmen

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 9:03 pm
by Fotofunguy
Thanks Northern Lass, I'll buy you a drink

But let me check it out first before I part with my hard earned money :lol: