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Northern Lass wrote:Hi Sue

how do you know that that Elizabeth that married William Whitehouse Jukes
is the dau of Wilkinson Hatton and Mary Wall?
if you havent got the marriage you cant be sure of the father surely unless clues on census

and do you mean bcc not bbc....
and if so what do you mean
sorry don't understand as we dont have the Wilkinson info on we only have the Jukes on ie Minnies father

i have her birth certifcate she was born in 1848?


1844 is the correct date for a marriage between Wilkinson hatton and mary ann wall
but we dont have that on BCC yet as we need more proof on this Eliz Hatton and her parents

kdw wrote:The only thing i can see is this on IGI
Elizabeth Hatton
Christening: 21 JUN 1847 Old Swinford, Worcester, England
Parents:
Father: Wilkinson Hatton Family
Mother: Mary Ann Wall

JOHN HATTON
Christening: 03 JUN 1852 Old Swinford, Worcester, England
Parents:
Father: WILKINSON HATTON Family
Mother: MARY ANNE

1851 Talbot Back Lane Stourbridge
Wilkinson Halton Head 27 Labourer Born Stourbridge
Mary Ann Halton Wife 27 Born Lenton Herefordshire
Thomas Halton Son 6 Born Stourbridge
Elizabeth Halton Daur. 3 Born Stourbridge
Mary Renolds Visitor 21 Born Droitwich

1861 Hagley Road Harwoods? Yard Stourbridge
Wilkisson Hatton Head 36 Shiller?for Spade Maker Born Stourbridge
Mary A Hatton Wife 36 TailoressBorn Bromsgrove Herford
Thomas Hatton Son 16 Spade Finisher Born Stourbridge
Mary Hatton Daur.7 Scholar Born Stourbridge
Elizabeth Hatton Mother Widow 67 Born Clent
William Hatton Brother 43 Labourer at Iron Works Born Stourbridge

So where is John did he die or is he elsewhere on census?

Northern Lass wrote:But the Birth Certif how do you know it is for that Elizabeth Hatton that married Wilkinson Jukes
it may well be
but then again

Northern Lass wrote:But the Birth Certif how do you know it is for that Elizabeth Hatton that married Wilkinson Jukes
it may well be
but then again

sueh wrote:

Northern Lass wrote:But the Birth Certif how do you know it is for that Elizabeth Hatton that married Wilkinson Jukes
it may well be
but then again

elizabeth is also down on maria freemans death certicate has her grand daughter
i know she is the right one

Northern Lass wrote:

sueh wrote:

Northern Lass wrote:But the Birth Certif how do you know it is for that Elizabeth Hatton that married Wilkinson Jukes
it may well be
but then again

elizabeth is also down on maria freemans death certicate has her grand daughter
i know she is the right one

So did she sign s Elizabeth Jukes?

Who did your Maria Freeman marry?
William Feeman?

So if the father of Mary ann Wall is John wall
who did John Wall marry?
and
where does maria/myrah Freeman fit in..is she the mother of Johns wife?
or is she Johns widow who remarries?

we need some census here

peterd wrote:right

1841 Bromyard

Mary Wall 17 Herefordshire, Glaves ?
Elizabeth Phillips 20 Herefordshire, ag labourer


either same house or next door ?

William Freeman 40 Herefordshire, ag labourer
Maria Freeman 45 Herefordshire,

Northern Lass wrote:Mary ann wall has father John Wall
so if that is her mother Maria then that must be a second marriage for Maria

found this
could be her 1st marriage
look at the name Phillips

JOHN WALL
Marriages:
Spouse: MARY PHILLIPPS
Marriage: 13 MAR 1822 Hampton Bishop, Hereford,
Extracted marriage record