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go to google and type in archive.org

then type in halesowen in search

for some reason all the links ive posted are ok to me ?

All new info from Di, now on:- http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =156537115

Will have to try Pete's link to get any further back, cheers Pete, will try and Google it.

Linell.

submitted

Edward Grove
Birth: About 1797 Of, Halesowen, Worcester,

Father: James Grove
Mother: Mrs. Mary Grove

and submitted

Edward Grove
Birth: 18 JUL 1802 Halesowen, Worcester,

Father: Edward Grove
Mother: Mary Fiddian

extracted

EDWARD GROVE
Christening: About 18 JUL 1802 Halesowen, Worcester,

Father: EDWARD GROVE
Mother: MARY


siblings extracted

SARAH GROVE
Christening: 26 DEC 1811 Halesowen, Worcester,

SAMUEL GROVE
Christening: 24 MAR 1805 Halesowen, Worcester,

WILLIAM GROVE
Christening: 21 SEP 1800 Halesowen, Worcester,

ANN GROVE
Christening: 26 DEC 1811 Halesowen, Worcester,

PRISCILLA GROVE
Christening: 21 JAN 1814 Halesowen, Worcester,

JOSIAH GROVE
Christening: About 26 DEC 1811 Halesowen, Worcester,

submitted

Edward Grove
Christening: 20 APR 1778 Halesowen, Worcester,
Death: 10 MAY 1842

Father: Samuel Grove
Mother: Esther Taylor



Spouse: Mary Feddian
Marriage: 01 OCT 1799

submitted

Samuel Grove

Birth: About 1735 Of, Halesowen, Worcester,
Burial: 03 JAN 1800 Halesowen, Worcester,

Father: Joseph Grove
Mother: Hannah Stringer


Spouse: Esther Taylor
Marriage: 04 FEB 1760

Extracted

EDWARD GROVE
MARY FIDDEAN
Marriage: 01 OCT 1799 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick,

extracts from the book

will of edward above

The father Edward dates his Will at Dudley in 1837, but as it is endorsed "formerly of Dudley but late of Halesowen " he probably returned to his native place between 1837, and 1842 when he died, and at Halesowen he was buried 13 May 1842 aged 64. His wife Mary Fiddean was then living.

Upon trust to pay and equally divide the same unto and amongst all and every my children namely William, Edward, Samuel and Josiah Grove, Sarah the Wife of the said William Hollies, George Grove, David, Mary Matilda & James Grove (see below) to be vested interests in such of my said children as are already of age at the time of my decease and in such of them as shall be infants at my decease on their attaining twenty-one or marriage

I appoint my said Wife and my said Son in law William Hollies executors of this my Will hereby revoking all former Wilis by me made I declare this to be my last Will and Testament

Proved in the Consistory Court of Worcester the 13"' day of September 1842 by Mary Grove, Widow, the Relict and William Hollies the Executors. Under £20. Died 9"' May 1842.



The Family of James (son of Edward)
[Communicated]

James, born 1824, youngest son of Edward by Mary
Fiddean, married 9 Dec. 1845 A"" Elizabeth Rose at
the Independent Chapel, Halesowen, and had a family
of eleven :-

1. Harriet Ann, mar. to Charles Eveson, died 29
April 1877 aged 29.

2. Eliza Jane, mar. to George Hill.

3. George Frederick, married Margaret Ann
Jeffrey.

4. William Henry, married Martha Jane Fellowes.

5. Thomas, died young.

6. Arthur James, married Eliza Jane Jeffrey, and
has issue :

(i) Arthur James, b. 1879, has issue, Marjorie,
Reginald James, and Muriel Elizabeth,
(ii) Florence Ann, b. 1880.
(iii) Francis Harold, b. 1882, has issue Eric,
(iv) Edgar Clifford, b. 1885.
(v) Margaret Jane, b. 1887. 201795B
(vi) Frederick. Edward, b. 1889.
(vii) Laura Mabel, b. 1891.
(viii) Elizabeth Marion, b. 1894.

7. Rose Elizabeth, died 25 August 1864,

8. Walter, married Elizabeth Fry Jones.

9. Juliet Phoebe, mar. to Edward Daniel Weston.

10. Alfred Edward, married May Hewitt.

11. Ernest Harry, married Katharine Barnsley.

The father, James, died 4 Dec. 1886, and the
mother on Lady Day 1904, aged -]-].



if we can tie the groves we got in to this lot them ican post edwards brothers and sister what do you think no point in putting on all the info untill weve worked out were this lot goes ?

james on bcc here

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =230371500

parents edward grove and mary fiddean not edward and pheobe see passage in red above

next door to james and ann 1881

1881 Stourbridge Rd Place Hawn, Worcester

Arthur J. GROVE 25 Halesowen, Worcester, Button Manufacturer
Eliza J. GROVE 23 Coventry, Warwick,
Arthur J. GROVE 2 Halesowen, Worcester,
Florence A. GROVE 4 m Halesowen, Worcester,
Elizabeth JEFFREY Visitor U 31 Scotland Dressmaker


marriage

GROVE Arthur J JEFFREY Eliza J 1878 Halesowen, St John the Baptist West Midlands Dudley Register Office 014/004/315


1891 Stourbridge rd, Hawne

Arthur J Grove 35 button manf
Eliza J Grove 33 coventry
Arthur J Grove 12
Florence A Grove 10
Francis H Grove 8
Edgar C Grove 5
Margaret J Grove 3
Frederick E Grove 2
Laura M Grove 3/12

all rest halesowen


1901, stourbridge rd, hawne

Arthur J Grove 45
Eliza J Grove 44
Arthur J Grove 21
Florence A Grove 20
Francis H Grove 18
Edgar C Grove 15
Margaret J Grove 13
Frederick E Grove 12
Laura M Grove 10
Elizabeth M Grove 7
M A Blakeway 20 sevant

2 doors up

Ann E Erwe 74 (Grove on image)
Edith Eveson 25 grandaug
Sarah Hill 22 servant




added to bcc

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =861834726


next door

1891 Stourbridge rd, Hawne

Ann E Grove 62
Juliet P Grove 27
Ernest H Grove 19
Edith A Eveson 17 grandaug lye

others halesowen

peterd wrote:james on bcc here

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =230371500

parents edward grove and mary fiddean not edward and pheobe see passage in red above

I agree with Peter. The Will, Peter's informant and the 1841 census all indicate that James is the youngest son of Edward 1778 and Mary Fiddean/Fiddian. It seems likely that it is James' older brother, Edward 1803, who married Phoebe Silk.

So, it looks like:
Joseph Grove & Hannah Stringer
I
Samuel Grove b. abt 1735 & Esther Taylor
I
Edward b. abt 1778 & Mary Fiddean
_____________ I_______________
I I
Edward 1803_______________ James 1824
m. Phoebe Silk______________m. Ann Elizabeth Rose

Also next to Edward & Mary in 1841 are:
Thomas Grove 40 b. abt 1801 nailor Y
Mary Grove 40 b. abt 1801 nailor Y

Thomas Grove one of Edward and Mary's children?

And ...
In 1861, on the same page as James & Ann Elizabeth, are:
William Grove Head 61 b. abt 1800 Retired Publican b. Halesowen
Fanny Grove Wife 61 b. Halesowen
Charles Grove Son 30 b. abt 1831 Halesowen

William is the right age to be James' eldest brother.

IGI submitted entry:
WILLIAM GROVE
Spouse: FRANCES MOORE
Marriage: 23 APR 1820 Halesowen, Worcester, England

peterd wrote:
submitted

Samuel Grove

Birth: About 1735 Of, Halesowen, Worcester,
Burial: 03 JAN 1800 Halesowen, Worcester,

Father: Joseph Grove
Mother: Hannah Stringer


Spouse: Esther Taylor
Marriage: 04 FEB 1760

Submitted:
Joseph Grove
Christening: 27 FEB 1713 Halesowen, Worcester, England
Death: 15 MAR 1784
Father: JOSEPH GROVE
Mother: HANNAH BUTLER
Spouse: Hannah Stringer
Marriage: 01 SEP 1734

Same person, another submitted entry:
Joseph Grove
Birth: Of, Halesowen, Worcester, England
Christening: 27 FEB 1713
Death: 15 MAR 1784 Gunnington, Halesowen, Worcester, England
Burial: 22 MAR 1784
Father: Joseph Grove
Mother: Hannah Butler
Spouse: Hannah Stringer
Marriage: 01 SEP 1734

Joseph Grove
Christening: 20 FEB 1680 Halesowen, Worcester, England
Burial: 07 JUN 1715
Father: Daniel Grove
Mother: Elizabeth Standley
Spouse: Hannah Butler
Marriage: 04 OCT 1710

Daniel Grove
Birth: 1643 Of Hawn, Halesowen, Worcester, England
Burial: 15 NOV 1696 Halesowen, Worcester, England
Father: James Grove
Mother: Anne Perks
Spouse: Elizabeth Standley
Marriage: 22 APR 1680 Halesowen, Worcester, England

'Allo, 'allo ... There's a familiar sound to this one. Can't see them on BCC though.