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Is this the Shelah you're looking for.
Shelah Garratt: Baptism 26th May 1805 - St Peters Church Belper

Julius Garratt - 1784
Married Mary Lee Pugh 9th August 1804 - Duffield Parish Church - Belper
Mary Lee - widower - Mary Pugh Married Edward Lee 16 April 1799.

Shelah Son of Julius (1784) & Mary Garratt.
Shelah Garratt: Baptism 26th May 1805 - St Peters Church Belper
Married Hannah Lees - 27th December 1831 - St. Thomas' Church, Dudley.
Marriage No: 825 Page 275-Sheal Garratt of this parish Bachelor and
Hannah Lees of this parish Spinster were married in this Church by Banns.
Witnesses Thomas Lees - Thos Allen - Mark of Sheal Garratt and Mark of Hannah Lees.
In the presence of Thos. Allen and Thomas Lees (X his mark)
Died 16th Feb 1870 - Simms Lane Netherton .


Julius Garratt son of Shelah (1805) and Hannah Garratt
Julius Garratt: Baptism: 22nd May 1836 - St Thomas Dudley - No 1089 - Page 137 -
(No Birth date was given in Parish Records)
Married: Sarah Greenfield 25th June 1859 - St Johns Church Parish of Dudley
Witnesses Henry Greenfield (Brother) - Elizabeth Round (Unknown)
Age given on Marriage certificate - Julius aged 23 - Sarah aged 21
Father's name given as Shelah Garratt - Nailer
Died 9th September 1912 - Medics Lane Kinver

Julius Garratt son of Julius (1836) and Sarah.
Julius Garratt Born 21 April 1874. Born Rayboulds Fold Netherton Dudley.
Married: Edith Elizabeth Barnett 14th July 1894 - The Parish Church Kingswinford Staffordshire.
Witnesses: Emma Challingsworth- (Sister) - Benjamin Johnson - (Unknown)
Age Given on Marriage certificate - Julius aged 20 - Edith Elizabeth aged 20
Father name given as Julius Garratt - Whitesmith
Died 7th December 1958 - 4 Lower Mardyke Avenue South Hornchurch - (Know Known as Rainham Essex)


Mary daughter of Julius (1874) and Edith.
Mary Garratt. Born 28th April 1915. born 24 Harwick Road, North Stretford, Lancashire.
Married: Joe Womack - 21 December 1935 - Romford Registry Office
Witnesses: Edith Elizabeth Garratt formally Barnett - (Mother ) - Henry J. Garratt - (Brother)
Died 26th May 1986 - Harold Hill, Buried St Andrews, Church Hornchurch.


This research was passed to me by Tina, it was taken from parish records and copies of original certificates.

TWG1947 wrote:Is this the Shelah you're looking for.
Shelah Garratt: Baptism 26th May 1805 - St Peters Church Belper

Hi TWG

Yes that is the Shelah Garratt I was looking for. I was just interested to see who had done all the reaearch further back. I can get back to shelah and Hannah Lees via birth / marriage certs. Was interested to know why they seem to have got married after their first child was born. Will go back to archives and see if there are any notes on the baptism entries.

Regards

Cid

Northern Lass wrote:Ok can you add that info to Shelagh if you get a min Cid be good to have that on BCC


So flagging to archive this unless otherwise advised

Will do NL

Cid

TWG1947 wrote:Julius Garratt - 1784

Shelah Son of Julius (1784) & Mary Garratt.
Shelah Garratt: Baptism 26th May 1805 - St Peters Church Belper
Married Hannah Lees - 27th December 1831 - St. Thomas' Church, Dudley.
Marriage No: 825 Page 275-Sheal Garratt of this parish Bachelor and
Hannah Lees of this parish Spinster were married in this Church by Banns.
Witnesses Thomas Lees - Thos Allen - Mark of Sheal Garratt and Mark of Hannah Lees.
In the presence of Thos. Allen and Thomas Lees (X his mark)
Died 16th Feb 1870 - Simms Lane Netherton

Hi TWG

Have you any idea where Shelah and Hannah are buried. I have been round St Andrews churchyard in Netherton, but couldn't find anything.

cid

Cid if you are fairly sure it is St Andrews then you need to get the churchyard records from Dudley out.
If there is maybe some recognition on one of the Graves like a small Stone recorded, that is no longer there, then there may be a record.
There was for my Hinetts.
Don't think this is the Monumental Inscriptions one it has a different name.
Then you get a plot number and the map and can find them that way, even if there is no headstone today.
But...there has to have been something that the council ( or whoever recorded this) noted down.

Have you tried the Dudley cemetaries record online?
when did he die?
and where?

According to info from TWG Shelah died Feb 1870 in Simms Lane Netherton, which made me think St Andrews. Have looked on Dudley cemetery records site, but no luck. Another one for the archives.

Cid

cid wrote:According to info from TWG Shelah died Feb 1870 in Simms Lane Netherton, which made me think St Andrews. Have looked on Dudley cemetery records site, but no luck. Another one for the archives.

Cid

If you have the date of death and qtr you can just rule out St Andrews seeing if actually buried there

Northern Lass wrote:

cid wrote:

If you have the date of death and qtr you can just rule out St Andrews seeing if actually buried there

How???

cid wrote:

Northern Lass wrote:

cid wrote:

If you have the date of death and qtr you can just rule out St Andrews seeing if actually buried there

How???

Cos you go thru the burial register and see if buried there
just cos no headstone doesnt mean not buried there

Aha, all becomes clear.

dudley archives, burial register. ok, on my list of todo's

Cid

Even better if you know when he died with a death certif or you have to wade thru that qtr you have for that year.

Now flagging this to archive
unless otherwise advised this will be moved to archived section