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mjay wrote: ↑Wed Nov 19, 2025 7:40 pm Its Mary bailey/Evans Parents Benjamin Bayley & Eliza.

Looks like Eiza was married before Benjamin Bayley

Thomas Evans is son in law
Mary Evans Thomas's wife & is Benjamins daughter

Marriage. Freereg.
5th June 1854. St Thomas, Dudley.
Benjamin Bailey, F A, B, Miner, William Bailey, Miner, deceased
Eliza Richards, FA, S, David Richards, Miner, deceased
Witnesses, Sarah Wire, John Wire

It says Eliza a spinster at time of marriage to Benjamin. Perhaps if we look for them before marriage?

kdwoodie wrote: ↑Thu Nov 20, 2025 5:34 pm I have no idea, no marriage found.

The witness' on Elizas marriage to Benjamin were married, John Wire and Sarah Richards. We're Sarah and Eliza related?

Witnesses were Sarah Wire and Joseph Wire.
I can't see a marriage for Joseph Wire.

1841. Loveys Lane, Darlaston, Walsall.
Joseph Bayley, 70, Miner,
Mary, 65,
William, 35,
Sarah, 35,
Benjamin, 10,
William, 10,
Nancy, 5,
Joseph, 1,
William Dent, 15, Ap
George Hughes, 10, Ap
Hannah Worton, 10, FS
All born in County

1851. Cock Heath, Wednesbury.
William Bayley, 48, Coal Miner, Darlaston
Sarah, wife, 47, Darlaston
Benjamin, son, 22, Coal Miner,
William, son, 20, Coal Miner,
Nancy, daur, 15,
All others born Wednesbury

Is William in 1881 Benjamin's brother? Birth place says Darlaston.

Freereg
Dudley
St Thomas
Parish Register
Register entry number196
Marriage date24 Mar 1845
John WYRE full age Dudley bachelor Miner Shavers End James WYRE Miner
Sarah RICHARDS full age Dudley spinster Shavers End
Witness1Joseph HILL
Witness2William ROUND
NotesBrides father given as Edward RICHARDS Miner (deceased) but has been crossed out. By Banns-Groom Bride & witness 2 marked X. Witness 1 signed.

Thank you both for all of this, I'm so confused, so thanks Jo for adding. I'll have another look later see if I can get my head round it to add on bcc.

Thanks again

Benjamin Bailey and Elizas children

Freereg
St James
Parish Register
Register entry number 567
Baptism date 17 Jun 1855
Person forename William
Person sex M
Father forename Benjamin
Mother forename Eliza
Father surname BAILEY
Person abode Wednesbury
Father occupation Miner

BAYLEY, JOHN RICHARDS
GRO Reference: 1858 M Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 458
Freereg
St Stephen
Other Transcript
Baptism date 28 Apr 1858
Person forename John
Person sex M
Father forename Benjamin
Mother forename Eliza
Father surname BAILEY
Father occupation Miner

Darlaston
St Lawrence
Parish Register
Register entry number 1018
Burial date 22 Jul 1859
Burial person forename John
Burial person surname BAYLEY
Person age 10m
Burial person abode Washington Row

BAYLEY, MARY EMMA RICHARDS
GRO Reference: 1859 M Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 479
St Stephen
Other Transcript
Baptism date 17 Mar 1859
Person forename Mary Emma
Person sex F
Father forename Benjamin
Mother forename Eliza
Father surname BAILEY
Father occupation Miner

BAILEY, JACOB RICHARDS
GRO Reference: 1862 M Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 06B Page 673
Kings Hill
St Andrew
Parish Register
Register entry number 498
Baptism date 20 Dec 1863
Person forename Jacob
Father forename Benjamin
Mother forename Eliza
Father surname BAILEY
Father occupation Miner, deceased

Wednesbury
St Bartholomew
Parish Register
Register entry number 858
Burial date 31 Dec 1864
Burial person forename Jacob
Burial person surname BAYLEY
Person age 2

BAILEY, BENJAMIN RICHARDS
GRO Reference: 1864 M Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 06B Page 761

Kings Hill
St Andrew
Parish Register
Register entry number 551
Baptism date 11 Aug 1864
Person forename Benjamin
Father forename Benjamin
Mother forename Eliza
Father surname BAYLEY
Person abode Long Row. Kings Hill
Father occupation Miner

Kings Hill
St Andrew
Parish Register
Register entry number 577
Baptism date 12 Oct 1864
Person forename Mary Emma
Father forename Benjamin
Mother forename Eliza
Father surname BAYLEY
Person abode Webbs Buildings. Long Row
Father occupation Miner

Kings Hill
St Andrew
Parish Register
Register entry number 580
Baptism date 13 Oct 1864
Person forename William
Father forename Benjamin
Mother forename Eliza
Father surname BAYLEY
Person abode Long Row. Kings Hill
Father occupation Miner
Notes Eight years old. Sibling of Jacob

Kings Hill
St Andrew
Parish Register
Register entry number 581
Baptism date 13 Oct 1864
Person forename Jacob
Father forename Benjamin
Mother forename Eliza
Father surname BAYLEY
Person abode Long Row. Kings Hill
Father occupation Miner
Notes Two years old. Sibling of William

Baptism for Benjamin
Darlaston
St Lawrence
Parish Register
Register entry number 21
Baptism date 16 Nov 1828
Person forename Benjamin
Person sex M
Father forename William
Mother forename Sarah
Father surname BAYLEY
Person abode Wednesbury
Father occupation Miner

Possible burial for Benjamin
Wednesbury
St Bartholomew
Parish Register
Register entry number 471
Burial date 21 Nov 1863
Burial person forename Benjamin
Burial person surname BAYLEY
Person age 34
Notes Coroners Order

I think Benjamin died in as Gas explosion at Hateley Heath Colliery
I don't have access to Find My Past for Newspapers

Eliza and Peters Children

Name Peter Cunningham
Sex Male
Age 0 days
Birth Year (Estimated) 1866
Marital Status Single
Father's Name Peter Cunningham
Father's Sex Male
Mother's Name Eliza Richard Baillie Cunningham
Mother's Sex Female
Event Type Death
Event Date 23 March 1866
Event Place Cramond, Midlothian, Scotland, United Kingdom

Name Donald Cunningham
Sex Male
Father's Name Peter Cunningham
Father's Sex Male
Mother's Name Eliza Richards or Bayley
Mother's Sex Female
Event Type Birth
Event Date 25 Oct 1867
Event Place Edinburgh, Edinburghshire, Scotland, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original) Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland

CUNNINGHAM, PETER RICHARDS
GRO Reference: 1872 J Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 06B Page 821
Freereg
Wednesbury
St James
Parish Register
Register entry number 1605
Baptism date 14 May 1872
Person forename Peter
Person sex M
Father forename Peter
Mother forename Eliza
Father surname CUNNINGHAM
Person abode Camp St.
Father occupation Engineer

Thanks for all the above Kd.

▪︎ I've started adding to bcc.
It looks like some children had 2 Baptisms.

▪︎ I haven't found a marriage for Peter Cunningham and Eliza.

▪︎ I havent found Eliza pre marriage to Benjamin Bailey




"Possible burial for Benjamin
Wednesbury
St Bartholomew
Parish Register
Register entry number 471
Burial date 21 Nov 1863
Burial person forename Benjamin
Burial person surname BAYLEY
Person age 34
Notes Coroners Order"

"I think Benjamin died in a Gas explosion at Hateley Heath Colliery"

I've googled the above and found this
It mentions a
J Bailey
Age: 34
Died: 17th Nov 1863
Accident: 17th Nov 1863
Year Born: abt. 1829
Colliery: Hateley Heath (Ironstone)
Company: T. Millership
Occupation: Bondsman
Notes:
Fell down pit shaft
Buried: [not known]
Category:

The incident at Hateley Heath Colliery on November 17, 1863, was a fatal accident where two men lost their lives by falling down the pit shaft, not an explosion.
Details of the incident:
Date: November 17, 1863.
Location: Hateley Heath Colliery (an ironstone mine) in West Bromwich, Staffordshire.
Company: T. Millership.
Cause: The men fell down the pit shaft.
Lives Lost: 2.
Victim: One of the deceased was named J. Bailey, a 34-year-old bondsman.
While several colliery explosions occurred in 1863 in other locations, such as the Coxlodge Colliery explosion in March and the Wynstay Colliery explosion in July, the event at Hateley Heath was specifically recorded as a shaft accident.

http://w-ww.dmm.org.uk/uknames/u1863-35.htm

This is a snippet of the newspaper

THE STAFFORDSHIRE ADVERTISER, SATURDAY, DECEMBER 19, 1863. -On Wednesday, Mr. Hooper, Coroner, resumed his enquiry into the circumstances attending the deaths of James Severn and Benjamin Bayley, at the Barrel Inn, King’s Hill. On the 17th November last explosion of pas took place at the Hateley Heath Colliery,
19 December 1863

Staffordshire Advertiser

Stafford, Staffordshire, England

Added on 01 Jan 2015

Completed & All added here on bcc

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