Catching up: Jane Severns--Grangers 14 adding.

[grangers14]

I am trying to work through the grand children here with Sarah Crowther in 1881 Most are women, so where do the children fit?

1881. Hill End, Dodderhill, Droitwich.
Sarah Crowther, head, W, 54, Charwoman, Stourbridge
Jane, g daur, 8,...CROWTHER, SARAH JANE CLARKE GRO Reference: 1872 S Quarter in DROITWICH Volume 06C Page 376 ?
William, g son, 5,
Edward, g son, 2,
Mary Jane, g daur, 4m
All others born Dodderhill

Also this Gardener found
CROWTHER, HENRY STEELE
GRO Reference: 1884 J Quarter in DROITWICH Volume 06C Page 402

[kdwoodie]

Charles married Ruth Roberts in Tavistock Devon


Marriages Sep 1874
Crather Charles Tavistock 5b 670
Green Elizabeth Jane G Tavistock 5b 670
HENDRA John Henry Tavistock 5b 670
Roberts Ruth Tavistock 5b 670

CROWTHER, CHARLES ROBERTS
GRO Reference: 1875 S Quarter in DROITWICH Volume 06C Page 389

CROWTHER, WILLIAM THOMAS ROBERTS
GRO Reference: 1877 J Quarter in KINGS NORTON Volume 06C Page 503

CROWTHER, EDWARD ROBERTS
GRO Reference: 1878 D Quarter in STOKE-UPON-TRENT Volume 06B Page 234


CROWTHER, MARY JANE ROBERTS
GRO Reference: 1880 S Quarter in WALSALL Volume 06B Page 686

Ruth died

Freereg
Staffordshire
Place (Links to more information) Walsall
Church name (Links to more information) Queen Street Cemetery
Register type (Links to more information) Other Register
Register entry number 18385
Burial date 03 Mar 1881
Burial person forename Ruth
Burial person surname CROWTHER
Person age 25
Burial person abode Penkridge Street Walsall
Notes Consecrated Ground

Charles and Jane went Australia in 1914 info on Ancestry

[grangers14]

Thank you kdw.
I had seen them but dismissed them!

Are you saying Charles and Jane Severns went to Australia?

[kdwoodie]

Yes

Name Mrs Jane A Crowther
Gender Female
Departure Age 62
Birth Date abt 1852
Departure Date 15 Oct 1914
Departure Port England
Ship Name Commonwealth
Shipping Line P & O Branch Service
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Destination Port Sydney, Australia
Master E M Hussey-Cooper

Name Charles Crowther
Gender Male
Departure Age 63
Birth Date abt 1851
Departure Date 15 Oct 1914
Departure Port England
Ship Name Commonwealth
Shipping Line P & O Branch Service
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Destination Port Sydney, Australia
Master E M Hussey-Cooper

[grangers14]

I think that Jane must be a different one, the passenger list says Jane A, Jane on BCC is just Jane. and born 5th July 1857.

[kdwoodie]

On other lists she is Jane or Mrs J, Charles is listed as Bricklayer

[grangers14]

I'm lost on this now!

[gardener]

I am trying to work through the grand children here with Sarah Crowther in 1881 Most are women, so where do the children fit?

1881. Hill End, Dodderhill, Droitwich.
Sarah Crowther, head, W, 54, Charwoman, Stourbridge
Jane, g daur, 8,...CROWTHER, SARAH JANE CLARKE GRO Reference: 1872 S Quarter in DROITWICH Volume 06C Page 376 ?
William, g son, 5,
Edward, g son, 2,
Mary Jane, g daur, 4m
All others born Dodderhill

Also this Gardener found
CROWTHER, HENRY STEELE
GRO Reference: 1884 J Quarter in DROITWICH Volume 06C Page 402

1891. Hill End, Dodderhill, Droitwich
Charles Crowther, head, 39, Bricklayer, Droitwich
Mary A, wife, 29, Potteries Staffordshire
Thomas, son, 13, Agricultural Labourer, Clent
Edward, son, 12, Smethwick
Mary, daur, 10, Potteries Staffordshire
Henry, son, 7, Walsall
Sarah Crowther, Mother, W, 66, Charwomen, Droitwich

I can't fit those kids to a Clarke mother, but there are these births

CROWTHER, WILLIAM THOMAS ROBERTS
GRO Reference: 1877 J Quarter in KINGS NORTON Volume 06C Page 503

CROWTHER, EDWARD ROBERTS
GRO Reference: 1878 D Quarter in STOKE-UPON-TRENT Volume 06B Page 234

CROWTHER, MARY JANE ROBERTS
GRO Reference: 1880 S Quarter in WALSALL Volume 06B Page 686

Freereg has

Mary Jane Crowther born 16 July 1880, bapt 29 Jul 1880 Ryecroft Privative Methodist Chapel; parents Charles (Bricklayer) and Ruth; abode Penkridge St., Walsall

Charles Crowther bpt 27 June 1875 Dodderhill, parents Charles and Ruth

CROWTHER, CHARLES ROBERTS
GRO Reference: 1875 S Quarter in DROITWICH Volume 06C Page 389

So father Charles fits, bricklayer fits, and Dodderhill is in the mix too. But a different mother.

We think Charles Crowther married
1871 marriage Christ Church, West Bromwich, Christ Church, Staffordshire, England
Name Charles Crowther 20 years
Birth Year (Estimated) 1851
Residence Place West Bromwich
Father's Name Edward Crowther
Spouse's Name Emma Clarke 19 years
Spouse's Residence Place West Bromwich
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated) 1852
Spouse's Father's Name George Clarke

They had a daughter SARAH JANE CLARKE GRO Reference: 1872 S Quarter in DROITWICH Volume 06C Page 376

Then I wonder if Emma died? I can't find an Emma but there is an Emily
Deaths Mar 1874
Crowther Emily 21 Droitwich 6c 243

Next up is son Charles
CROWTHER, CHARLES ROBERTS
GRO Reference: 1875 S Quarter in DROITWICH Volume 06C Page 389

Then
CROWTHER, WILLIAM THOMAS ROBERTS
GRO Reference: 1877 J Quarter in KINGS NORTON Volume 06C Page 503

CROWTHER, EDWARD ROBERTS
GRO Reference: 1878 D Quarter in STOKE-UPON-TRENT Volume 06B Page 234

CROWTHER, MARY JANE ROBERTS
GRO Reference: 1880 S Quarter in WALSALL Volume 06B Page 686

Charles died
Deaths Mar 1880
Crowther Charles 4 Stoke T.

Name Charles Crowther
Age 4
Birth Date 1875
Death Date 1880
Event Type Burial
Event Date 1880
Event Place Longton, Staffordshire, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original) St John, Longton, St John, Staffordshire, England

Looks as though they moved back from the Potteries to Walsall in 1880, and the surviving kids show up in the 1881 census with their grandmother

1881. Hill End, Dodderhill, Droitwich.
Sarah Crowther, head, W, 54, Charwoman, Stourbridge
Jane, g daur, 8,
William, g son, 5,
Edward, g son, 2,
Mary Jane, g daur, 4m
All others born Dodderhill

But where was Charles in 1881? With this Ruth Roberts? I can't see a marriage for them

It is so hard when people move around. I'm not sure any of this is firm enough without purchasing certificates

[grangers14]

kdw found this, I think is correct, although error in spelling

Marriages Sep 1874
Crather Charles Tavistock 5b 670
Green Elizabeth Jane G Tavistock 5b 670
HENDRA John Henry Tavistock 5b 670
Roberts Ruth Tavistock 5b 670

I will look more later today.

[grangers14]

I have added what I think I can.
If someone has time would you please check before we archive.

[kdwoodie]

Looks good to me

[grangers14]

Thank you.
I will archive now.