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Re: Joseph Parsons and Ann Maria Harrold

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:50 pm
by Jimmy
Dudley St Thomas.
Burial date 09 Jan 1848.
Thomas DOWNING.
Person age 29.
Burial person abode Dudley.
Notes Died 6 Jan.

Re: Joseph Parsons and Ann Maria Harrold

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:56 pm
by kdwoodie
grangers14 wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:18 pm I think we need more census to work it out.

1871. Gosty Hill, Rowley Regis.
Maria Parsons, head, W, 69, Nail Maker,
Joseph, son, 26, Gas Tube Maker
Hannah, wife, 27,
Emmanuel, son, 7,
William, son, 4,
David, son, 1
All born Rowley Regis
1851 Gorsty Hill
Emanuel Parsons 47 Head M Nail Factor
Maria Parsons 49 Wife M Nail Maker
Joseph P Devonport 7 Nephew Scholar
All Born Rowley Regis

Jimmy found this
1861. Gosty Hill, Rowley Regis.
Maria Parsons. Head. Widow. 54. Nail factor. Rowley Regis.
Joseph Partridge. Nephew. Unmarried. 17. Carter. Rowley Regis.

1871. Gosty Hill, Rowley Regis.
Maria Parsons. Head. Widow. 69. Nail maker. Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
Joseph Parsons. Son. 26. Gas tube maker. Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
Hannah Parsons. Wife. 27. Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
Emanuel Parsons. Son. 7. Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
William Parsons. Son. 4. Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
David Parsons. Son. 1. Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.

1881. 109, Gosty Hill, Rowley Regis.
Joseph Parsons. 35. Gass tube welder. Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
Hannah Parsons. 38. Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
Emanuel Parsons. Son. 17. Gass tube screwer. Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
Willy D Parsons. Son. 15. Gass tube screwer. Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
David Parsons. Son. 11. Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
Richard Parsons. Son. 3. Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
Violet Parsons. Daughter . 2. Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
Joseph Parsons. Son. 9. Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.

1891 109 Gosty Hill Rowley Regis
Joseph Parsons 46 Head M Gas Tube Welder
Hannah Parsons 49 Wife M
Willy Parsons 23 Son S Labourer in Gas Tube Works
David Parsons 19 Son S Labourer in Gas Tube Works
Joseph Parsons 17 Son S Gas Tube Screwer
Richard Parsons 15 Son S Gas Tube Screwer
John Parsons 9 Son S Scholar
All Born Rowley Regis

1901 43 Tump Road ? Rowley Regis
Joseph Parsons 55 Head M Gas Tube Welder
Hannah Parsons 55 Wife M
John Parsons 18 Son S Brickyard Labourer
All Born Blackheath

Re: Joseph Parsons and Ann Maria Harrold

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2024 6:37 am
by kdwoodie
Anna/ Hannah Downing already on BCC here https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... ver=656145

Worcestershire
Dudley
St Thomas
Unspecified
Register entry number 2410
Birth date 05 Mar 1841
Baptism date 21 Mar 1841
Person forename Hannah
Person sex F
Father forename James
Mother forename Mary
Father surname DOWNING
Person abode Dudley
Father occupation Engine Man

Re: Joseph Parsons and Ann Maria Harrold

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2024 5:50 pm
by grangers14
1841. Gosty Hill, Rowley Regis
Emanuel Parson, 35
Mariah, 35,
Ezeakiel Willetts, 45,
John Downing, 25,
Benjamin Lee, 20
All Nailers and born in County


I am just wondering if Joseph P Davenport in 1851 and Joseph Partridge 1861, down as nephew is maybe adopted by them? The ages are about right?

Re: Joseph Parsons and Ann Maria Harrold

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2024 7:07 pm
by Jimmy
I think it's the same person.

Re: Joseph Parsons and Ann Maria Harrold

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2024 7:15 pm
by grangers14
I feel that, but then this marriage ? :?
kdwoodie wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2024 1:11 pm Freereg
Worcestershire
Romsley
St Kenelm
Parish Register
Register entry number 62
Marriage date 04 Sep 1863
Joseph Parsons DEVENPORT 19 bachelor Gas worker Hasbury William KING Illegitimate
Hannah CARTWRIGHT 20 spinster Gorta Hill David CARTWRIGHT Iron worker
Witness1 Joseph WESTON
Witness2 Sarah Ann WESTON

Re: Joseph Parsons and Ann Maria Harrold

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2024 7:20 pm
by kdwoodie
I think this is Joseph Parsons who married Anna Downing

https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... ver=656145

Re: Joseph Parsons and Ann Maria Harrold

Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2024 6:32 am
by kdwoodie
Joseph died
Worcestershire
Dudley
St John (Kates Hill)
Unspecified
Burial date 20 Aug 1865
Burial person forename Joseph
Burial person surname PARSONS
Person age 25
Burial person abode Dudley

Hannah remarried
Staffordshire
Rowley Regis
St Giles
Parish Register
Register entry number 489
Marriage date 26 May 1867
William HARTSHORN 30 bachelor Miner Turners Hill Benjamin HARTSHORN Brickmaker
Hannah PARSONS 27 widow Turners Hill James DOWNING Engineer
Witness1 John ROBERTS
Witness2 Philicia ROBERTS
Notes Groom, Bride & Witnesses sign X

Re: Joseph Parsons and Ann Maria Harrold

Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2024 5:59 pm
by grangers14
Thank you kdw.
I agree!

I looked this morning and just looking and trying to sort now.

So this...
Freereg
Worcestershire
Romsley
St Kenelm
Parish Register
Register entry number 62
Marriage date 04 Sep 1863
Joseph Parsons DEVENPORT 19 bachelor Gas worker Hasbury William KING Illegitimate
Hannah CARTWRIGHT 20 spinster Gorta Hill David CARTWRIGHT Iron worker
Witness1 Joseph WESTON
Witness2 Sarah Ann WESTON

PARTRIDGE, EMMANUEL CARTWRIGHT
GRO Reference: 1863 D Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 23

PARTRIDGE, JOSEPH CARTWRIGHT
GRO Reference: 1866 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 8

PARTRIDGE, DAVID CARTWRIGHT
GRO Reference: 1869 S Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 7

Re: Joseph Parsons and Ann Maria Harrold

Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2024 6:21 pm
by grangers14
PARSONS, RICHARD CARTWRIGHT
GRO Reference: 1876 S Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 16

PARSONS, VIOLET CARTWRIGHT
GRO Reference: 1879 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 26

PARSONS, JOHN CARTWRIGHT
GRO Reference: 1881 D Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 1

Re: Joseph Parsons and Ann Maria Harrold

Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2024 6:54 pm
by grangers14
So far I have added this, sometime there has been a name change. I am not sure on the marriage cert if that is meant to say Illegitimate or Illegible? Seems strange for occupation and who knows William King? :?

https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =820061753

The other Joseph Parsons, here, but not added all info yet
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =708436756

Re: Joseph Parsons and Ann Maria Harrold

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2024 1:25 pm
by mumbles
Had a quick look at this as busy on other family history
found as follows :-
1939 Register 5 Coombs Wood Buildings Halesowen Worcs.
Jessie Evelyn Parsons
Marriage 1938 PARSONS Jessie E COOPER Horace G 1938 Halesowen, St John the Baptist Dudley Register Office 014/012/384

1939 Register 5 Coombs Wood Buildings Halesowen Worcs.
Maria A. Cooper ( Parson written above) (wid_ born 23/6/1874
Jessie Evelyn Cooper born 1910
Neil Brian Cooper born 16/11/1938

Re: Joseph Parsons and Ann Maria Harrold

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2024 1:45 pm
by mumbles
Freereg marriage
28/3/1921 St. Paul Blackheath Staffs.
Reuben Oliver 22 Bach Packer 25 Coombs Wood Buildings father George Olver Painter
Violet Oliver 23 Sp. Silversmith 5 Coombs Wood Buildings father Joseph Parsons Prover
Witnesses :- Percy Parsons & Fanny Oliver

1939 Register 21 Coombs Wood Buildings Halesowen Worcs.
Rueben Oliver born 22/1/1899 Tube Jacker Steel Tube Works
Violet B. Oliver born 16/1/1898
Violet F. Oliver ( Fanny Violet) born 21/8/1921 Industrial Motor Connection Electrical Engineering
William Oliver ( William Joseph born 16/2/1927 At School ( died 2003 Sandwell)
Jack R. Oliver born 17/8/1934 ( Rueben Jack Oliver died 7/12/1984 Halesowen

PARSONS Percy ROPER Elizabeth 1921 Dudley Register Office Dudley Register Office DRO/048/38

1939 Register 40 Olive Drive Halesowen Worcs.
Percy Parsons born 29/51899 Stamping Hot Hanges Steel Tube Works
Elizabeth Parsons born 14/6/1900
Ralph R. Parsons born 18/2/1922 Stock Keeper Electrical Factory
Iris I. Parsons born 25/6/1924 Press Hand Armaments

Re: Joseph Parsons and Ann Maria Harrold

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2024 3:26 pm
by mumbles
George Oliver is here :-

https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =637603955

Also found Joseph Parsons and Ann Maria in 1921 but cannot put on BCC

Living at 5 Coombs Wood Cottages with son Percy and Jessie Evelyn

Re: Joseph Parsons and Ann Maria Harrold

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2024 7:04 pm
by grangers14
I am lost on this last bit mumbles! :?