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Re: Ernest Harold Lawrence 1939 census

Posted: Sun May 14, 2023 6:28 pm
by Silver surfer
Can I be cheeky and ask for a couple of military lookups please. The afore mentioned Ernest may have enlisted in US army as we have a photo of 3 unknown soldiers one of whom was said to be father of child born 1932. He may have emigrated, fought then returned to Uk where he died 1971.
I dont have ancestry etc but did find a couple of results on their military page:
US WW11 draft cards young men 1940-47 , Ernest H Lawrence residence Virginia and
US dept veterans affairs BIRLS death file 1850-2010 with the name Ernest F Lawrence died 1971. Is this F a typo?
Probably a long shot but worth a try.

tia

Re: Ernest Harold Lawrence 1939 census

Posted: Sun May 14, 2023 8:53 pm
by Jimmy
I will have a look tomorrow.

Re: Ernest Harold Lawrence 1939 census

Posted: Mon May 15, 2023 1:01 pm
by Jimmy
Ernest H Lawrence.
Race: White.
Age: 38.
Relationship to Draftee: Self (Head).
Birth Date: 25 Jan 1904.
Birth Place: Smithfield, West Virginia, USA.
Residence Place: Winchester, Frederick, Virginia, USA.
Registration Date: 16 Feb 1942.
Registration Place: Winchester, Frederick, Virginia, USA.
Employer: P W Plumly.
Height: 5 10.
Weight: 145.
Complexion: Light.
Hair Color: Brown.
Eye Color: Gray.
Next of Kin: Dorothy S Lawrence.
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship.
Ernest H Lawrence 38 Self (Head).

Ernest Forest Lawrence.
Record Type: Military Service.
Birth Date: 27 Oct 1896.
Military Date: 30 Jan 1919.
Residence Place: Shelbyville, Ind.
Death Date: 23 Sep 1971.

Ernest F Lawrence.
Death Date: 23 Sep 1971.
SSN: 309015720.
Enlistment Branch: ARMY.
Enlistment Date: 30 Aug 1918.
Discharge Date: 30 Jan 1919.

Re: Ernest Harold Lawrence 1939 census

Posted: Mon May 15, 2023 1:09 pm
by Jimmy
Ernest Harold Lawrence of 56 Canonbury Road, Enfield. Died 6 September1971. Probate London 26 October. £336.

Do you have an occupation for him.

Re: Ernest Harold Lawrence 1939 census

Posted: Mon May 15, 2023 1:14 pm
by Silver surfer
Many thanks for your time Jimmy. Think shall now have to call it a day on finding Ernest after 1937 (apart from his death) as I can't place him with certainty in 1939 reg
I could apply for the death cert I suppose, but as he isn't in my tree I'm loathe to spend money on it!

Re: Ernest Harold Lawrence 1939 census

Posted: Mon May 15, 2023 1:16 pm
by Silver surfer
Our messages must have crossed.
The last occupation I have is on his marriage in 1929 when he is a butcher at Coxheath Farm Kent, but he then became a guest house owner at Bognor before he left.

Are there any other names mentioned on probate?

Re: Ernest Harold Lawrence 1939 census

Posted: Mon May 15, 2023 7:51 pm
by Silver surfer
Have just accessed the 1921 census and found Ernest still in Leicester aged 18yrs and 0mths, giving him a birthdate of June 1903 (census 19 June) and his occupation is butchers assistant, so that defo ties him into the one who married Daisy in 1929, and the one who died 1971. As for 1939 and if he remarried I'm still unsure and may never know. If his probate mentions a widow shall be onto a winner. There is a possible marriage to a Vera J S la-Parde Northcott but that is the only entry I can find for her, not even a birth or death.
Thanks again for the look ups Jimmy.

Re: Ernest Harold Lawrence 1939 census

Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 11:51 am
by Jimmy
Jimmy wrote:Ernest Harold Lawrence of 56 Canonbury Road, Enfield. Died 6 September1971. Probate London 26 October. £336..


That's all there is on the probate.

Re: Ernest Harold Lawrence 1939 census

Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 12:01 pm
by Jimmy
LAPARDE, VERA JOAN SABINA mothers maiden name RANDALL.
GRO Reference: 1917 D Quarter in HENDON Volume 03A Page 450.

Re: Ernest Harold Lawrence 1939 census

Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 12:17 pm
by Jimmy
Wrong one,

1939. Ealing, Middlesex.
Ernest H Lawrence 32. 1 Jul 1907. Sheet Metal Worker & Letter ??
Vera J S Lawrence 22. 6 Oct 1917. Coffee Manufacturing.
Edna Northcott 40.
This record is officially closed.

Re: Ernest Harold Lawrence 1939 census

Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 2:11 pm
by Silver surfer
Guess that's it then :cry: :cry: