Re: UPDATE look up for PD done! ---Jesse Penn
Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 8:47 pm
do you want blood Peter? 
grangers14 wrote:do you want blood Peter?
ha ha ha
you tell him Jo
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Re: UPDATE look up for PD done! ---Jesse Penn
Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 8:49 pm
ha ha ha
you tell him Jo
Re: UPDATE look up for PD done! ---Jesse Penn
Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 9:36 pm
Eeeh thought he'd be pleased!:wink:
was playing
Anyway, cant see any Phebe Jane Penn?
Have an idea for a marriage for Jesse to Emily though.
1875 RUSSON Emily PAYNE Jesse Dudley, St Andrew Dudley Register Office 205/006/44
Can that be added to look ups or not?
Think I've found Emma Russon and family if you want to run with that?
Jo
was playing Anyway, cant see any Phebe Jane Penn?
Have an idea for a marriage for Jesse to Emily though.
1875 RUSSON Emily PAYNE Jesse Dudley, St Andrew Dudley Register Office 205/006/44
Can that be added to look ups or not?
Think I've found Emma Russon and family if you want to run with that?
Jo
Re: UPDATE look up for PD done! ---Jesse Penn
Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:37 pm
one pint or two no harm in double checking and making sure
no harm in double checking and making sure Re: UPDATE look up for PD done! ---Jesse Penn
Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:54 pm
Re: UPDATE look up for PD done! ---Jesse Penn
Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:03 pm
grangers14 wrote:As Pinn on ancestry
1891 Census
Maughawls( ?)
Jesse Penn, head, 36, Iron Worker, brierly Hill
Emily, wife, 33, Woodside
George, son, 15, Coal Miner
Samuel, son, 14,
Emma Russon(?), mother in law, W, 58,
Jesse, son, 12,
William, son, 10,
Alfred, son, 8(?)
David, son, 6
Albert, son, 3
Rowland, son, 1
All others born Quarry Bank.
Previous household,
Benjamin Penn, 22, Iron Worker, Quarry Bank
Matilda, wife, 25, Lyd(?) Worcestershire
Hannah, daur, 3, brierly Hill
submitted
Jesse Penn
Birth: About 1855 Brierly Hill, Kingswinford, Stafford,
Father: Jesse Penn
Mother: Susannah or Hannah Walters
extracted
JESSE PENN
Spouse: HANNAH WALTERS
Marriage: 05 DEC 1841 Old Swinford, Worcester
so can we find these in 1851,61 please
Re: UPDATE look up for PD done! ---Jesse Penn
Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:09 pm
grangers14 wrote:
1841, Thorns, Kingswinford
Thomas Cartwright, 25, Coal miner
Drusilla, 25,
William, 5,
Ann, 3
Thomas, 1
1851, Quarry Bank, Kingswinford
Thiomas Cartwright, head, 36, Coal Miner
Dreusila, wife, 37,
William, son, 15, Coal Miner
Ann, daur, 13,
Thomas, son, 11, Coal Miner
Eliza, daur, 9,
Hannah, daur, 6,
John, son, 5,
Pheoby, daur, 2,
James, 1m(?)
All born Kingswinford
1861, Highway Road, Kingswinford
Thomas Cartwright, 48, Coal Miner
Dianah, wife, 46,
Ann, daur, 24,
Thomas, 21, Shoe Maker
Eliza, daur, 19, Nailor,
Hannah, daur, 16, Nailor,
John, son, 14, Coal Miner,
James, son, 10, Coal Miner
Emma, daur, 5,
George, son, 1,
Benjamin, Grandson, 1
All born Kingswinford.
1871 Census
Thomas Cartwright, head, 31,
Elizabeth, wife, 26,Stourbridge
John Thomas, son, 2
House previous entry
Drusilla Cartwright, head, w, 56, Charwoman
John, son, 23, Miner
Emma, daur, 13,
Benjamin, son, 12,
George, son, 12
All others born Kingswinford
1881, Merry Hill, Kingswinford
Thomas Cartwright, head, 40, Boot and Shoe Maker
Elizabeth, wife, 37,
Thomas, son, 13,
Annie, daur,5
Matilda, daur,2
Druccella, Mother, 67
George, brother, 21, coal miner, Annuitant
All born Kingswinford
1891, Merry Hill, Kingswinford,
Thomas Cartwright, head, 51, Shoe Maker
Elizabeth, wife, 46,
Annie, daur, 15,
House previous,
1891, Merry Hill, Kingswinford,
George Cartwright, head, 30, Coal Miner
Sarah, wife, 30(?)
Wilfred L, son, 4
Matilda, daur, 11(?says 4 on ancestry but looks like two figures)poss thomas dau 12 ?
Emma, daur, 5,
Catherine Hubble, lodger, 45, Pauper
All born Kingswinford
Re: UPDATE look up for PD done! ---Jesse Penn
Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:26 pm
jo where did you get that george, sarah, and matilda from 1891 ?
as ive got this ?
Thomas Cartwright 51
Elizabeth Cartwright 46
Annie Cartwright 15
Matilda Cartwright 4
Emma Cartwright 5
Catherine Hubble 45
looks like 11 and 5 for emma why go 4 and 5 Ancestry
and this ?
George Cartwright 30
Sarah Cartwright 30
Wilfred L Cartwright 4
as ive got this ?
Thomas Cartwright 51
Elizabeth Cartwright 46
Annie Cartwright 15
Matilda Cartwright 4
Emma Cartwright 5
Catherine Hubble 45
looks like 11 and 5 for emma why go 4 and 5 Ancestry
and this ?
George Cartwright 30
Sarah Cartwright 30
Wilfred L Cartwright 4
Re: UPDATE look up for PD done! ---Jesse Penn
Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:28 pm
Possible for Jesse??
1881 Census
My (?) Street, Kingswinford
Jesse Penn, head, 59, Iron Worker
Susannah, wife, 56,,
John, son, 20, Iron Worker,
Joseph, son, 16, Iron worker,
Benjamin, son, 12,
Susannah, daur, 10,
All born Brierly Hill.
The house previous
Elizabeth Penn, head, 89, West Bromwich
1871 Census
Z Street, Kingswinford,
Jesse Penn, head, 49, Puddler
Susannah, wife, 46,
Ellen, daur, un married, 23,
Jesse, son, 16, Puddler
Thomas, son, 14,
John, son, 11,
Benjamn, son, 2,
Joseph, son, 6,
Mary, grand daur, 9,
Susannah, Grand daur, 1
1861 Census
Quarry Bank, Kingswinford,
Jesse Penn, head, 37, Nailor
Susannah, wife, 37, Srourbridge
Ann Wooldridge, daur, w, 18, Nailor
Elizabeth, daur, 16, Nailor
Ellen, daur, 13, Nailor
Hannah, daur, 11, Nurse maid
Eliza, daur, 7,
Jesse, son, 6,
Thomas, son, 3,
John, son, 6 months
All others born Kingswinford
1851 Census
Quarry Bank, Kingswinford
Jesse Penn, head, 29, Puddler of Iron
Susannah, wife, 27, Stourbridge
Ann, daur, 8,
Elizabeth, daur, 6,
Ellen, daur, 4,
Hannah, daur, 1
All others born Kingswinford
1841 Census
Bower, Kingswinford
Thomas Penn, 45, Labourer
Elizabeth, 45,
Jesse, 15,
David, 15,
Caroline, 14,
Ellen, 11,
Elizabeth, 9,
Thomas Brooks, 8,
Hannah Brooks, 3
Richard Beddall, 8 months
All born County
The hose next door has Brooks and also a Beddall too
Sheven Brooks, 25, Nailor
Eliza, 25,
Jane, 6,
Susannah, 3,
Mary, 5 months
Joseph Beddall, 25, Nailor, not born county
All others born County
1881 Census
My (?) Street, Kingswinford
Jesse Penn, head, 59, Iron Worker
Susannah, wife, 56,,
John, son, 20, Iron Worker,
Joseph, son, 16, Iron worker,
Benjamin, son, 12,
Susannah, daur, 10,
All born Brierly Hill.
The house previous
Elizabeth Penn, head, 89, West Bromwich
1871 Census
Z Street, Kingswinford,
Jesse Penn, head, 49, Puddler
Susannah, wife, 46,
Ellen, daur, un married, 23,
Jesse, son, 16, Puddler
Thomas, son, 14,
John, son, 11,
Benjamn, son, 2,
Joseph, son, 6,
Mary, grand daur, 9,
Susannah, Grand daur, 1
1861 Census
Quarry Bank, Kingswinford,
Jesse Penn, head, 37, Nailor
Susannah, wife, 37, Srourbridge
Ann Wooldridge, daur, w, 18, Nailor
Elizabeth, daur, 16, Nailor
Ellen, daur, 13, Nailor
Hannah, daur, 11, Nurse maid
Eliza, daur, 7,
Jesse, son, 6,
Thomas, son, 3,
John, son, 6 months
All others born Kingswinford
1851 Census
Quarry Bank, Kingswinford
Jesse Penn, head, 29, Puddler of Iron
Susannah, wife, 27, Stourbridge
Ann, daur, 8,
Elizabeth, daur, 6,
Ellen, daur, 4,
Hannah, daur, 1
All others born Kingswinford
1841 Census
Bower, Kingswinford
Thomas Penn, 45, Labourer
Elizabeth, 45,
Jesse, 15,
David, 15,
Caroline, 14,
Ellen, 11,
Elizabeth, 9,
Thomas Brooks, 8,
Hannah Brooks, 3
Richard Beddall, 8 months
All born County
The hose next door has Brooks and also a Beddall too
Sheven Brooks, 25, Nailor
Eliza, 25,
Jane, 6,
Susannah, 3,
Mary, 5 months
Joseph Beddall, 25, Nailor, not born county
All others born County
Re: UPDATE look up for PD done! ---Jesse Penn
Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:38 pm
jo where did you get that george, sarah, and matilda from 1891 ?
as ive got this ?
I must have been talking a load of rubbish Peter!
Your right.
Jo
as ive got this ?
Thomas Cartwright 51
Elizabeth Cartwright 46
Annie Cartwright 15
Matilda Cartwright 4
Emma Cartwright 5
Catherine Hubble 45
looks like 11 and 5 for emma why go 4 and 5 Ancestry
and this ?
George Cartwright 30
Sarah Cartwright 30
Wilfred L Cartwright 4
I must have been talking a load of rubbish Peter!
Your right.
Jo
Re: UPDATE look up for PD done! ---Jesse Penn
Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 8:33 am
Marriage for Phoebe Jane Penn
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1899
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
PENN Phoebe J MORRIS George E Quarry Bank, Christ Church Dudley Register Office 016/003/228
1901 28The Croft Dudley
George etc Morris Head 25 Labourer in Iron Works Born Dudley
P Jane Morris Wife 20 Born Dudley
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1899
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
PENN Phoebe J MORRIS George E Quarry Bank, Christ Church Dudley Register Office 016/003/228
1901 28The Croft Dudley
George etc Morris Head 25 Labourer in Iron Works Born Dudley
P Jane Morris Wife 20 Born Dudley
Re: UPDATE look up for PD done! ---Jesse Penn
Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 8:48 am
Oh brilliant kdw!
This may be her birth.
Ph__Be Jane Penn 1881 Jan-Feb-Mar Stourbridge 6c 242
This may be her birth.
Ph__Be Jane Penn 1881 Jan-Feb-Mar Stourbridge 6c 242
Re: UPDATE look up for PD done! ---Jesse Penn
Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:04 pm
This may be her in 1881,
My(?) Street, Kingswinford
Thomas Penn, Head, 23, Iron Worker
Matilda, wife, 23,
Pheobe, daur, 1 month
All born Quarry Bank
My(?) Street, Kingswinford
Thomas Penn, Head, 23, Iron Worker
Matilda, wife, 23,
Pheobe, daur, 1 month
All born Quarry Bank
Re: UPDATE look up for PD done! ---Jesse Penn
Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:19 pm
grangers14 wrote:This may be her in 1881,
My(?) Street, Kingswinford
Thomas Penn, Head, 23, Iron Worker
Matilda, wife, 23,
Pheobe, daur, 1 month
All born Quarry Bank
so phebe is jesse jrn cousin as thomas and jesse srn are brothers ?
Re: UPDATE look up for PD done! ---Jesse Penn
Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:41 pm
I wonder if Pheobe Jane is a cousin? There is a thomas aged 14 in 1871?
Possible for John and Matilda Dec 1879 Matilda Pearson
Jo
had to change this. Just put my head back on
Possible for John and Matilda Dec 1879 Matilda Pearson
Jo
had to change this. Just put my head back on