ARC TBC...Question Benjamin father of John Clarke 1850

[Northern Lass]

Free reg.
burial
Staffordshire
Lower Gornal
St James the Great
Register entry number 365
Burial date 24 Nov 1831
Burial person forename Sarah
Burial person surname CLARK
Person age 31y
Burial person abode Gornall

??

[Jimmy]

Lower Gornal. St James the Great.
Burial date 24 Nov 1831.
Sarah CLARK. age 31.
Burial person abode Gornall.

[kdwoodie]

That would fit

[Northern Lass]

could this be it wit is a cartwright.

Free reg.
St Thomas Dudley
Marriage date 28 Apr 1829
Groom forename Benjamin
Groom surname CLARK
Groom parish Dudley
Groom condition bachelor
Bride forename Sarah
Bride surname TURLEY
Bride parish Dudley
Bride condition spinster
Witness1 John JUKES
Witness2 Mary TURLEY
Notes Witness (3) John CARTWRIGHT. By Banns-Groom Bride & witnesses signed

so do you think that looks like a credible 1st marriage?

[Northern Lass]

The marriage for Benjamin Clark to Sarah Turley is I think the Benjamin b 1807
who goes onto marry Mary Connor

Sarah dies in 1831 she is aged 31

benjamin Clark/Southall b 1807 seems to have the father Benjamin Southall so I would expect him to marry as that in about
1810??....or maybe before and maybe he was married when he shacked up with Sarah Clarke but gave his name...

[kdwoodie]

Was Benjamin Southall a naughty boy

Sedgley
All Saints
Parish Register
Baptism date 26 Feb 1809
Person forename Benjamin
Person sex M
Father forename Benjamin
Mother forename Honor
Father surname SOUTHALL
Mother surname HADEN
Person abode Lower Gornal
Notes Base born. The mother is from Lower Gornal while the father is from Shutt End.

[Jimmy]

Lower Gornal. St James the Great.
Burial date 24 Nov 1831.
Sarah CLARK. age 31.
Burial person abode Gornall.

Possible Sarah died in child birth, a possible daughter.

Lower Gornal St James the Great.
Burial date 29 Jan 1832.
Sarah CLARK. infant.
Burial person abode Gornall.
.

[Northern Lass]

I saw that but wondered if it was bit too late if sarah dies in nov 1831 and kiddie in jan 1832

I cant see a marriage for Benjamin Southall at all....any census for him

and shall I add in that marriage as a poss?

[Northern Lass]

Was Benjamin Southall a naughty boy

Sedgley
All Saints
Parish Register
Baptism date 26 Feb 1809
Person forename Benjamin
Person sex M
Father forename Benjamin
Mother forename Honor
Father surname SOUTHALL
Mother surname HADEN
Person abode Lower Gornal
Notes Base born. The mother is from Lower Gornal while the father is from Shutt End.

He is getting around isnt he our Benjamin Southall

this is too much of a coincidence shall I add with a note onto Ben southall?

[kdwoodie]

Possible?
1841 Oak Street Darlaston
Benjamine Southall 50 Butcher
Elizabeth Southall 50
Benjamine Southall 20
Thomas Southall 15 B Smith
Hannah Southall 15
William Southall 14 B Smith
Enoch Southall 12
All born in county

[Northern Lass]

Possible?
1841 Oak Street Darlaston
Benjamine Southall 50 Butcher
Elizabeth Southall 50
Benjamine Southall 20
Thomas Southall 15 B Smith
Hannah Southall 15
William Southall 14 B Smith
Enoch Southall 12
All born in county

that would work with occup of butcher and he is born about 1790 so could be having kids who are born 1807 and 1809

[kdwoodie]

I don't think we can take this much further.

[Northern Lass]

i agree good run though

flagging to arc

[Jimmy]

1841. Bilston Street, Sedgley.
Benjn Southall 30.
Elizabeth Southall 27.
Mary Southall 3. All born
N K Southall 0.

1851. Bilston Street, Sedgley.
Benjamin Southall 38. Canal labourer.
Elizabeth Southall 38.
William Southall 9.
Benjamin Southall 6.
Julia Southall 2.
All born Sedgley.

A possible marriage,

Wolverhampton St Peter.
Marriage date 28 Apr 1833.
Benjamin SOUTHALL.
Betsey HALE.
Witness 1 Sarah HARPER.
Witness 2 John BIDDULPH.

SOUTHALL, MARY HALE.
GRO Reference: 1837 S Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 195.

SOUTHALL, WILLIAM HALE.
GRO Reference: 1841 J Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 333.

SOUTHALL, BENJAMIN HALE.
GRO Reference: 1844 J Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 308.

SOUTHALL, JULIA HALE.
GRO Reference: 1848 J Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 347.

[Northern Lass]

That would be b abt 1813 for a Benjamin Southall so that is I think another one

this looks like the Benjamin Clarke /Southall
1841 Sedgley
joseph Cartwright 50 Publican Y
Sarah Cartwrfight 50 Y
Sarah Cartwright 20 Y
Benjamin Clark 30 Y
Mary Connor 20 F S N

so his father should be born about 1790 or before?