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Re: James Barnsley

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 8:55 am
by kdw
1871 as written
Shifnal Sneashill ?coppice
James Barnsley Head Mar 67 Bricklayer B. Salop Sneashill ?
Ellen Barnsley Wife Mar 64 B. Salop Sneashill ?
William Barnsley Son Mar Unm W 42 Forgeman B. Salop Sneashill ?
John Barnsley son Unm 17 Forgeman B. Salop Sneashill ?

Not sure about the Sneashill bit. Definitely says Son
Class: RG10; Piece: 2747; Folio: 94; Page: 59; GSU roll: 835397.

Re: James Barnsley

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 10:51 am
by peterd
is it a different william are we dealing with two different families ?

or is it the same family william did a runner and caroline said he was dead and remarried ?

wonder if we can find a death anyone find that william in 1881,1891 to se if he still alive ?

Re: James Barnsley

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 11:05 am
by peterd
found this ?

1881 Snedshill Shifnal, Shropshire


William BARSLEY Head M Male 52 Shifnal, Shropshire, Factory Striker (B Smith) (forgeman ?)
Elizabeth BARSLEY Wife M Female 47 Shifnal, Shropshire,

also one for william barnsley jun 1851 wellington poss 1st mar ?


Marriages Jun 1872

Barnsley William Shiffnal 6a 1181
Evans John Shifnal 6a 1181
HAYWARD Lydia Shiffnal 6a 1181
HUMPHRIES Elizabeth Shiffnal 6a 1181



is this the marriage is it our first case of bigamy ? or two williams ?

anyone any idea's ?

Re: James Barnsley

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 11:15 am
by peterd
1881 William BARSLEY Head M Male 52 Shifnal, Shropshire, Factory Striker

anyone find him in 61.51 as 71 poss with james and ellen?

Re: James Barnsley

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 11:15 am
by FarSide
1891
123
Snedshill, Shropshire
William Barnsley 62 - Parish relief
Elizabeth Barnsley 58
Harriet Poole 37 - In care - b Old Park, Lunatic
all b Snedshill

Re: James Barnsley

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 11:29 am
by FarSide
kdw wrote:Possibles
1841 Shiffnal Shropshire
Thomas Ward 65 Miner
James Barnsley 35 Bricklayer
Helen Barnsley 30
William Barnsley 12
Ann Barnsley 10
Eliza Barnsley 10
All born in County


Is this a poss Dawley near Shiffnal
1851
155
Pensnett, Kingswinford
Richard Holmes 51
Emma Holmes 46
Henry Duddill 17
Harriet Holmes 15
Mark Baugh 26
Jonas Powell 42
William Barnsley 25 - b Dawley, Shrops
Coal miners

1861
William with Caroline
William Barnsley 35
Caroline Barnsley 22
Elizabeth Barnsley 2
Ann Barnsley 2 Mo

Re: James Barnsley

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 12:28 pm
by peterd
FarSide wrote:Is this a poss Dawley near Shiffnal
1851
155
Pensnett, Kingswinford
Richard Holmes 51
Emma Holmes 46
Henry Duddill 17
Harriet Holmes 15
Mark Baugh 26
Jonas Powell 42
William Barnsley 25 - b Dawley, Shrops
Coal miners

1861
William with Caroline
William Barnsley 35
Caroline Barnsley 22
Elizabeth Barnsley 2
Ann Barnsley 2 Mo



dawley about 5 miles from shiffnal can you see another william barnsley in 1861 not living with caroline but born shropshire/ salop about same age ?

Re: James Barnsley

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 12:44 pm
by FarSide
dawley about 5 miles from shiffnal can you see another william barnsley in 1861 not living with caroline but born shropshire/ salop about same age ?

No only the William with Caroline

Re: James Barnsley

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 12:47 pm
by mallosa
me neither, only with Caroline :?

Re: James Barnsley

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 12:53 pm
by peterd
so we got ourselfs two bigamist ? they split and both remarry ?

Re: James Barnsley

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 10:20 am
by Northern Lass
What we doing on this one then guys?

interesting if that William Barnsley was married and supposed to be deceased

did we find a death for one at all?

Re: James Barnsley

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 1:46 pm
by Northern Lass
Flagging to archive

Unless otherwise advised this will be moved to archived section within 24 hrs

Re: *Arc tbc* -James Barnsley

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 9:11 pm
by peterd
we might have two william barnsley as here a death

BARNSLEY William 1866 - Rowley Regis West Midlands Sandwell Register Office RR/22/465

Re: *Arc tbc* -James Barnsley

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 7:48 am
by Northern Lass
peterd wrote:we might have two william barnsley as here a death

BARNSLEY William 1866 - Rowley Regis West Midlands Sandwell Register Office RR/22/465


Could well be

Do you want to run with this lot still?
if not I will archive