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Poss
1841
Windmill, Halesowen
George Jacksons 52 - Navy P
Ann Jacksons 38
Matilda Jacksons 11
Edward Jacksons 8
Ellen Jacksons 6
George Jacksons 3
Obediance Jacksons 1
all b in c

Poss
1841
Back of Spring Hill, Hasbury
William Basterfield 29 - Bricklayer
Sarah Basterfield 39
Joseph Basterfield 10
Emma Basterfield 6
all b in c

next door
James Basterfield 20 - Nailor
Sarah Basterfield 20
both b in c

Awesome Thanks to all who did some digging.

I just want to sum up and see if I have things in my head straight. (Not least of which because I have to keep stopping to look places up on a map )

Folks seem to have found 4 Basterfields in Halesowen born in the 1819 - 1831 bracket:
James (b 1819) m Emma Franklin
Henry (b 1820) m Sarah Shivlock
Benjamin (b 1824) m Elizabeth Cocksey
Joseph (b 1831) m Matilda Jackson


I just poked the 1841 census, and found some possible matches to James, Benjamin and Joseph. Sadly, none of them in the same house but Joseph and James appear to be quite close physically if I am reading this rightly.


I am wondering if this is the Joseph who married Matilda Jackson...

BASTERFIELD, William M 29 1812 Shropshire
BASTERFIELD, Sarah F 39 1802 Shropshire
BASTERFIELD, Joseph M 10 1831 Shropshire
BASTERFIELD, Emma F 6 1835 Shropshire

Registration District: Stourbridge Sub District: Halesowen
Civil Parish: Halesowen Address:
Spring Hill Back Row, Halesowen, Hasbury County: Shropshire

James:

BASTERFIELD, James M 20 1821 Shropshire
BASTERFIELD, Mary F 20 1821 Shropshire

Registration District: Stourbridge Sub District: Halesowen
Civil Parish: Halesowen Address:
Spring Hill Back Row, Halesowen, Hasbury County: Shropshire

Benjmin:

BASTERFIELD, Joseph M 50 1791 Shropshire
BASTERFIELD, Mary F 50 1791 Shropshire
BASTERFIELD, Benjmin M 20 1821 Shropshire
BASTERFIELD, Eliza F 10 1831 Shropshire
BASTERFIELD, Elizabeth F 5 1836 Shropshire

Registration District: Stourbridge Sub District: Halesowen

Civil Parish: Halesowen Municipal Borough: Halesowen
Address: Islington, Halesowen County: Shropshire

Lots of data, now to try and pick some information out of it....

peterd wrote:extracted



william

47 Parker St Barrow In Furness, Lancashire

William BASTERFIELD Head M Male 29 Hale Owen, Worcester, England Bricklayer
Catherine BASTERFIELD Wife M Female 25 Swansea St Thomas
Berther BASTERFIELD Daur Female 5 Swansea Landore Scholar
William BASTERFIELD Son Male 3 Birmingham, Warwick, England Scholar
Lena BASTERFIELD Daur Female 1 Barrow, Lancashire, England

(poss catherine harris cant find marriage cert two bro two sisters?)

According to FreeBMD there's a William Basterfield marriage in 1870 in West Bromich which seems to be a bit short of people on that page - wondering if the transcriptions might not have got that far:
Marriages Jun 1870
Basterfield William W.Bromwich 6b 839
DUNN Lucy W. Bromwich 6b 839

I also found in the 1841 census:
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born Original census image

HARRIS, Charles Head Married M 54 1807 Labourer Glamorgan Swansea
HARRIS, Maria Wife Married F 39 1822 Pembroke...
HARRIS, Thomas Son Unmarried M 13 1848 Labourer Glamorgan Swansea
HARRIS, Maria Daughter F 7 1854 Labourers Daughter Glamorgan Swansea
HARRIS, Kitty Daughter F 5 1856 Labourers Daughter Glamorgan Swansea
HARRIS, Hannah Daughter F 4 1857 Labourers Daughter Glamorgan Swansea

If Edward Basterfield & Hannah Harris were siblings of William and Catherine, that might be the right Harris family/ Kitty is certainly about the right age for my Catherine Harris and born in the right place (Swansea), and ditto with the Hannah m Edward from 1881 census

EDIT haha! I just found Catherine Harris's death index entry in the Victorian BDM search, and it says her parents were Charles Harris and Maria Unknown


(The dates I have atm suggest that Catherine was about 15 at most when she got married....)

Damien wrote <Folks seem to have found 4 Basterfields in Halesowen born in the 1819 - 1831 bracket:
James (b 1819) m Emma Franklin
Henry (b 1820) m Sarah Shivlock
Benjamin (b 1824) m Elizabeth Cocksey
Joseph (b 1831) m Matilda Jackson>

Could all have been brothers, their children names are often Henry, James, Edward. Back of Spring Hill and Islington were only a field apart, probably 500 yards. Halesowen was in Shropshire until 1844, then back to Worcestershire. There were Basterfields in Halesowen when I lived there circa 1951 - 1971. Will have a look at the Parish Register see if that holds any clues. Linell.

Have had a look at the Halesowen Parish Transcript. Did notice how the name Basterfield has many variations.

19.4.1818 James Bap son of John and Phoebe Baskerfield Borough Mason.
13.8.1820 Henry Bap son of Joseph and Mary Bastable Borough Mason. Born 14.2.1820.
25.12.1821 Benjamin Bap son of Joseph and Rebecca Basterball Borough Mason.

The reference to 'Mason' must surely mean they are of one family.

This Marriage was interesting:- Elijah Baskerfield fa bach Mason Borough. Father Joseph Baskerfield Mason, and Maria Jones fa Widow Borough, Father John Careless Labourer. 3.12.1837. Witnesses were Henry Hinchley and Mary Robinson.

HTH from Linell.

linell wrote:Damien wrote <Folks seem to have found 4 Basterfields in Halesowen born in the 1819 - 1831 bracket:
James (b 1819) m Emma Franklin
Henry (b 1820) m Sarah Shivlock
Benjamin (b 1824) m Elizabeth Cocksey
Joseph (b 1831) m Matilda Jackson>

Could all have been brothers, their children names are often Henry, James, Edward. Back of Spring Hill and Islington were only a field apart, probably 500 yards. Halesowen was in Shropshire until 1844, then back to Worcestershire. There were Basterfields in Halesowen when I lived there circa 1951 - 1971. Will have a look at the Parish Register see if that holds any clues. Linell.

Judging only on the 1841 census results, James and Joseph might be, but I think Benjamin is an outlier - he seems to be living in a different household. But they might have been cousins if they are not that far apart.

FarSide wrote:Poss
1841
Windmill, Halesowen
George Jacksons 52 - Navy P
Ann Jacksons 38
Matilda Jacksons 11
Edward Jacksons 8
Ellen Jacksons 6
George Jacksons 3
Obediance Jacksons 1
all b in c

while googlehunting, I found this site that contains a marriage for Obedience
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/us ... -0003.html

19.4.1818 James Bap son of John and Phoebe Baskerfield Borough Mason.
13.8.1820 Henry Bap son of Joseph and Mary Bastable Borough Mason. Born 14.2.1820.
25.12.1821 Benjamin Bap son of Joseph and Rebecca Basterball Borough Mason.

According to these Baptisms, their fathers were all Masons, Masons were few and far between in Halesowen circa 1820, they must be Cousins. I would work on the theory that their fathers were brothers. Will see what else I can find in the PR's later, best wishes from Linell.

FarSide wrote:Poss

Poss
1841
Back of Spring Hill, Hasbury
William Basterfield 29 - Bricklayer
Sarah Basterfield 39
Joseph Basterfield 10
Emma Basterfield 6
all b in c

next door
James Basterfield 20 - Nailor
Sarah Basterfield 20
both b in c

anyone find the 1851 census for the above please

1851 Census Spring Hill Hasbury
Benjamin Basterfield HD 27 Bricklayer H/O
Elizabeth Wife 26 RR
Maria DA 3
James Son 2

Wm Basterfield HD Widow 52 Bricklayer All born H/O
Elizabeth DA 27
Joseph Son 25 Bricklayer
Mary DA 23
Thomas Son 21
Wm Son 15
Richard Son 12
James Son 8
Ann Rudge Visitor U Annuitant

Phoebe Basterfield HD Widow Proprietor of Houses All born H/O
James HD M 31 Bricklayer
Mary Wife 30
Sarah DA 9
Mary Ann DA 4
John Son 2

1851 Back of Spring Hill Hasbury
Joseph Bastefield HD 20 Bricklayer Hasbury
Matilda Wife 20 Hasbury

Back of Spring HIll 1851 Hasbury
William Bastefield HD M 44 Bricklayer Halesowen
Sarah Wife M 43 Hasbury

1851 Islington Halesowen
James Basterfield HD 32 Nailer All born H/O
Emma Franklin Housekeeper U 30 Nailer
Jane DA 4 born out of wedlock
Emma DA 2 born out of wedlock
Elijah Jones Lodger M 26 Nailer
Elizabeth Jones Lodger's Wife M 23 Nailer

FarSide wrote:Poss
1841
Back of Spring Hill, Hasbury
William Basterfield 29 - Bricklayer
Sarah Basterfield 39
Joseph Basterfield 10
Emma Basterfield 6
all b in c

next door
James Basterfield 20 - Nailor
Sarah Basterfield 20
both b in c

so looks like this is joseph parent (wife matilda)

linell wrote:1851 Back of Spring Hill Hasbury
Joseph Bastefield HD 20 Bricklayer Hasbury
Matilda Wife 20 Hasbury

Back of Spring HIll 1851 Hasbury
William Bastefield HD M 44 Bricklayer Halesowen
Sarah Wife M 43 Hasbury

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wonder were emma is ?

the marriage look up for joseph and matilda should confirm the above so where do all the other basterfield fit in and what proof do we have ?

could this be emma marriage

EMMA BASTERFIELD
JOSEPH PARSONS
Marriage: 24 FEB 1851 Saint Thomas, Birmingham, Warwick,


mumbles you got owt on this one ?

peterd wrote:could this be emma marriage

EMMA BASTERFIELD
JOSEPH PARSONS
Marriage: 24 FEB 1851 Saint Thomas, Birmingham, Warwick,


mumbles you got owt on this one ?

Age is right for Emma
1851
125
Back of Spring Hill, Hasbury
Joseph Parsons 22 - Nailor - b Halesowen
Emma Parsons 17 - Nailor - b Hasbury

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