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Re: WILLIAM ALLEN.

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:42 pm
by Northern Lass
Dennis wrote:Hi folks, I'm back from my travels :P In 1841 in Belper the family - if I have the right one, the usual caveat! - is as follows:

Saml Allen 50
John Allen 15
William Allen 12
Samuel Allen 10
Charlotte Allen 8
Eliza Allen 5


could this be Wms grandfather

Re: WILLIAM ALLEN.

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:52 pm
by Northern Lass
Jimmy wrote:I have the copies of him on 1851 to 1901 census's.
1851 he his lodging with a Charles Harris and family with a Charles Allen Oldhill, Rowley Regis,
but I dont have him with parents in 1841.


Charles Harris is witness on marriage

25 December 1851 St Thomas Dudley<br>
William Allen- of full age- bach- nailer- Dudley- John Allen- nailer<br>
Mary Ann Tromans- minor- spinster- Dudley- Barnet Tromans-nailer<br>
banns<br>
X both<br>
Wit- X Maria Harris/ X Charles Harris

Re: Update- Look up done for Jimmy!-WILLIAM ALLEN.

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 3:13 pm
by Jimmy
Thanks NL for the look up.

This is all I have,
Submitted.

William Allen.
Christening, 28 JUL 1833, Ault Hucknall, Derby.
Parents:
John Allen.
Ellen.

Which could be this one.

Submitted.
JOHN ALLEN.
ELLEN SADLER.
Marriage, 14 AUG 1826. North Wingfield, Derby,

I havn't done any more on this one for a few years, so I will need to find him in the 1841 census.

Re: WILLIAM ALLEN.

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 3:21 pm
by Jimmy
Northern Lass wrote:
Jimmy wrote:I have the copies of him on 1851 to 1901 census's.
1851 he his lodging with a Charles Harris and family with a Charles Allen Oldhill, Rowley Regis,
but I dont have him with parents in 1841.


Charles Harris is witness on marriage

25 December 1851 St Thomas Dudley<br>
William Allen- of full age- bach- nailer- Dudley- John Allen- nailer<br>
Mary Ann Tromans- minor- spinster- Dudley- Barnet Tromans-nailer<br>
banns<br>
X both<br>
Wit- X Maria Harris/ X Charles Harris


He is lodging with the witnesses in 1851.

Re: Update- Look up done for Jimmy!-WILLIAM ALLEN.

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 3:32 pm
by Northern Lass
So that all ties in nicely doesnt it with name Ellen and kid called Ellen too.

Do you need any more on this Jimmy or can we archive?

Re: Update- Look up done for Jimmy!-WILLIAM ALLEN.

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 3:43 pm
by Jimmy
If possible I would like to find him in the 1841 census with parents or grandparents,
I have a 1841 copy of census with a John and Ellen living in Derby, both age 45. (can't make out the area)
he is down as a carpenter so I don't know if he is the right one.

Re: Update- Look up done for Jimmy!-WILLIAM ALLEN.

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 3:56 pm
by Northern Lass
Jimmy wrote:If possible I would like to find him in the 1841 census with parents or grandparents,
I have a 1841 copy of census with a John and Ellen living in Derby, both age 45. (can't make out the area)
he is down as a carpenter so I don't know if he is the right one.


do you have parents for this John Allen?
is it a Samuel?

Re: Update- Look up done for Jimmy!-WILLIAM ALLEN.

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 4:12 pm
by Jimmy
I have no idea at the moment.

There is this one,


Submitted.

John Allen.
Christening, About 18 MAY 1794. Belper, , Derby.

Parents:
James Allen.
Rachel.

William had a daughter named Rachel.

Re: Update- Look up done for Jimmy!-WILLIAM ALLEN.

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 7:52 pm
by Northern Lass
Hi Jimmy do you want me to move this to brickwalls, archive or if you are still after a census the look up requests and title it 1841 census
is that the one you are after?

Re: Update- Look up done for Jimmy!-WILLIAM ALLEN.

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 8:58 pm
by Jimmy
Hi NL,

You may as well archive it.