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Re: Jemima Pugh
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 11:28 am
by Jimmy
Living The Hill, Worcs. down as Parker.
1851.
Richard Parker. abt 1814.
Elisabeth Parker. abt 1815.
Mary A Parker. abt 1838.
Philemon Parker. abt 1840.
Richard Parker. abt 1841.
Henry Parker. abt 1843.
Joseph Parker. abt 1846.
Hannah Parker. abt 1848.
Jemima Parker. abt 1848.
Jane Parker. abt 1850.
Re: Jemima Pugh
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 11:46 am
by Northern Lass
Look!...we have him...and her..but we dont have it all ...yet!!
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =220899509so this links to Silver Surfer and Pughs....SS where are you!!

Re: Jemima Pugh
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 11:49 am
by Northern Lass
We need to get all this on can anyone help me please
we need to amend Jemima tonkins to Jemima parkes and add the 2 marriages then link her to sister of Sarah Parkes
if we can find the 2 on a census just to confirm
help!

Re: Jemima Pugh
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 12:00 pm
by Northern Lass
now is this Thomas Pugh the father of Mary Pugh that I have est as b 1820 actually the guy who marries jemima Tonkins (nee Parkes)
need a date of death for our Thomas Pugh and a date of birth for him
can we find a date of birth for this father of mary ann
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =540435225could he be the same one as this one...I think they are one and the same
it would make sense
Mary Pugh marries Moses nock bro to Daniel
Daniels wife is Sarah Parkes...her sister is Jemima Parkes widow
father to mary Pugh is widow b abt 1838 shrops too!
and....he is a sawyer...we got a connections here ....
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =540435225wot we think
Re: Jemima Pugh
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 12:04 pm
by FarSide
Poss
Extracted
MARY ANN PUGH
Christening: 13 MAY 1855 Bishops Castle, Shropshire, England
Parents:
Father: THOMAS PUGH
Mother: ELIZABETH
Re: Jemima Pugh
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 12:06 pm
by FarSide
sib
Extracted
MARGARET PUGH
Christening: 06 MAR 1857 Bishops Castle, Shropshire, England
Death: 15 JUN 1857
Parents:
Father: THOMAS PUGH
Mother: ELIZABETH
Re: Jemima Pugh
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 12:15 pm
by Northern Lass
hmmm now on BCC SS has this Thomas marrying Caroline Davies and then Martha davies...
so I dont know....
the son William Pugh is he the one on the 1881 with Phoebe unknown ...ie Daniel Nocks mother
here is William Pugh with Thomas Pugh
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =697599264and here is Phoebe 1881 info
1881 - 61 Waggon St., RR
Phebe Nock Head W 56 Nail Maker b. RR
John Nock Son 18 Labourer b. RR
Samuel Nock Son 15 Nail Maker b. RR
William Jones Lodger 48 Nail Maker b. RR (Salop crossed out)
William Pugh Lodger 18 Miner C
John Jones Lodger 48 b. NK
I think Thomas pugh is the one b 1838 that marries jemima
not sure bout his prev marriages need to confirm all that....
where next?
Re: Jemima Pugh
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 12:32 pm
by Northern Lass
Rite I think we are on to somat...just had a word with SS and Thomas Pugh is her line
now it is her William on the 1881 with Phoebe nock!!
I have the marriage of Mary Pugh and she is a Mary not an Ann
so I need to find her on census with father Thomas a sawyer and maybe brother William
Mary is born abt 1858 age 19 on 1877 marriage
and I am now gardening...getting grief here to get off the comp

Re: Jemima Pugh
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 12:37 pm
by FarSide
1861
67
Garratts Lane, Rowley
Elizabeth Parkes 49 - Nailor - b Dudley
Philip Parkes 30 - Coalminer
Henry Parkes 17 - Coalminer
Jamima Parkes 12 - Nailor
Sarah Parkes 8
others b Rowley
Re: Jemima Pugh
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 5:31 pm
by Silver surfer
Only just got to this as been on hols for a week. Thomas Pugh, my 2x gt gd father had 3 wives, Caroline Davies 5 Sep 1858 at St Michaels Lydbury North who died in 1859 at Clun; Martha Davies (any relation?) 8 May 1860 at Clun. She died in 1877 at Dudley. He then mar Jemima Tomkins 1903 Dudley Reg. Thomas was born 17 Jul 1838 to John and Mary Smallman (actually says Small on cert but think error as father John made his mark so probably didn't know)at Hucklemynd Lydbury North and died 3 Mar 1904 at 43 Waggon St Old Hill from aortic incompetence and mitral regurgitation aged 66. He was a timber sawyer and present at the death was Jemima.
1901 census: 42 Waggon St, a widower
1891 census: 42 Waggon St, a sawyer
1881 census: 121 Tipton Rd, Tivdale
1871 census: Hamperley, Wistanstone
1861 census: Church Street, Bishop's Castle
1851 census: Snake's Croft, Bishop's Castle
1841 census: Hucklement
Not living with family in 1841 aged 12 but with Michael and Mary Oakley a farmer at Oakley.
Re: Jemima Pugh
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 5:46 pm
by Northern Lass
What is the name of martha Davies father SS...Elias?
just wondered if we can link Caroline and Martha somehow ..sisters?
Re: Jemima Pugh
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 5:51 pm
by Northern Lass
Jimmy wrote:Living The Hill, Worcs. down as Parker.
1851.
Richard Parker. abt 1814.
Elisabeth Parker. abt 1815.
Mary A Parker. abt 1838.
Philemon Parker. abt 1840.
Richard Parker. abt 1841.
Henry Parker. abt 1843.
Joseph Parker. abt 1846.
Hannah Parker. abt 1848.
Jemima Parker. abt 1848.
Jane Parker. abt 1850.
So we have Jemima on the census ...if father is richard....going to look up marriage
but no Sarah there
need them on 1861 please toghether
Re: Jemima Pugh
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 7:47 pm
by Northern Lass
Just looking at an ances tree and they have something very interesting
they have an Elizabeth scrivens as mother for jemima and sarah as we thought ,,,, Richard father
and
they have a William Scriven on as father and Honour Thompson ma for Elizabeth Scrivens....
now we have them on site ...can we connect up
need proof though
Re: Jemima Pugh
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 8:30 pm
by Northern Lass
Sooooooooooo frustrating but I cant join up till we know that William Scriven and Honor Thompson are the parents of Elizabeth scriven
I cant spend too much time on this so if someone can look at it ...trouble is on IGI there are 3 Eliz or Elizabeth scrivens to diff parents
how can we prove that the William Scriven and Honour we have are the Eliz Scrivens ma and pa and then she married Richard Prkes
I am looking up the marriage see if witnesses any use

Re: Jemima Pugh
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 9:09 pm
by Northern Lass
I dont think her parents are William and Honor
none of their children for Richard Parkes and Elizabeth are called William and Honour
and Elizabeth puts down different places of birth than kingswinford
and dob is all over the show!
ie
1851 Netherton dob 1815
1861 Dudley dob 1812
1881 RR dob 1809
I give up .....
