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Re: Jane Rose b abt 1857 nee severns

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 11:31 am
by gardener
You'll have to get that birth certificate!


I just noticed this


Fourth Court Messrs. G. Titterton, W. J. Adams, and A. D. Mathews.. CHARGES AGAINST A DUDLEY SOLDIER. Dudley, yesterefay, George Henry Rose (32), Si. Giles Street. Netherton, serving in the 13th Wore©* tersbire Regiment, was charged with assaulting fait brother William Rose, Simms Lane, stated that defend entered his house and, without provocation punched him violently about the head and face. Defendant alleged that complainant attacked him with a shovel, striking him on the face end wrist. Chief Superintendent Spoke said there were twentythree previous convictions against defendant. Rose was fined 20s. or 11 days’ imprisonment. Defendant said was unable to pay the fine...
08 May 1915 - Birmingham Daily Post - Birmingham, West Midlands, England

Must be Lily's brother in trouble.

Re: Jane Rose b abt 1857 nee severns

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 6:46 am
by Northern Lass
Which certif do I need to get?

you have Georges havent you?

cos where did we get that dob from?

what does fait brother mean?

and do we have info on Georges military might mention parents info

Re: Jane Rose b abt 1857 nee severns

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 10:46 am
by gardener
Northern Lass wrote:Which certif do I need to get?

You said
I think that on 1891 it isnt Jane ............although it says Jane...........that address of soho warks is rubbish...

she has a kid 1887 Lily elizabeth..............then is maybe on 1891 if her......then in 1898 William is with Ellen having kids

I really need to see where she is in 1887 when having lily but need a bapt or birth certif for that.


can't see a bapt for Lily can anyone else please.
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you have Georges havent you Yes

cos where did we get that dob from? From the birth cert, yes.

what does fait brother mean? Dunno. I don't have a subscription so I pieced it together from the bits of text that you get by searching on Brit, Newspapers. It may be "his"?

and do we have info on Georges military might mention parents info I have not found it yet.

Re: Jane Rose b abt 1857 nee severns

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 11:16 am
by Jimmy
gardener wrote:You'll have to get that birth certificate!


I just noticed this


Fourth Court Messrs. G. Titterton, W. J. Adams, and A. D. Mathews.. CHARGES AGAINST A DUDLEY SOLDIER. Dudley, yesterefay, George Henry Rose (32), Si. Giles Street. Netherton, serving in the 13th Wore©* tersbire Regiment, was charged with assaulting fait brother William Rose, Simms Lane, stated that defend entered his house and, without provocation punched him violently about the head and face. Defendant alleged that complainant attacked him with a shovel, striking him on the face end wrist. Chief Superintendent Spoke said there were twentythree previous convictions against defendant. Rose was fined 20s. or 11 days’ imprisonment. Defendant said was unable to pay the fine...
08 May 1915 - Birmingham Daily Post - Birmingham, West Midlands, England

Must be Lily's brother in trouble.


Check this one out, his wife called Annie,

George Rose.
Gender: Male.
Birth Date: abt 1885.
Birth Place: Sunderland, Durham, England.
Age: 29.
Document Year: 1914.
Regimental Number: 17661.
Regiment Name: Worcestershire Regiment.
Form Title: Short Service Attestation.
Number of Images: 10.

Disharged for committing assault, 26. 5. 1915.

Wife Annie St Giles St, Netherton.

Re: Jane Rose b abt 1857 nee severns

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 11:46 am
by gardener
This must be him

George Rose No. 17661 Worcestershire Regt.
Born Sunderland
Age 29 years 34 days
Chainmaker
at Dudley 3rd Sept 1914

Worcs Reg
6th Posted 3.9.14
13th Posted 6.11.14
13th Discharged 26.5.15
having been convicted by the civil power of assault K.R. 392 (x)
Authority GOC 10th Reserve Infantry Brigade

29 yrs 34 days
5 feet 4 172 inches
chest girth expanded 38 inches
range of expansion 2 inches
complexion fresh
eyes brown
hair lt brown
C of E
tattooed left forearm, two moles left cheek

Next of kin: Annie Rose (wife) 7 S Giles St Netherton W Dudley

cause of discharge
having been convicted by the Civil power of assault (23rd conviction) at Dudley in the county of Worcester. Sentenced to pay a fine of 1 pound 2 shillings or 11 days imprisonment. date 7th May 1915.
Discharge under KR para 391 approved


All fits apart from wife's name.

Re: Jane Rose b abt 1857 nee severns

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 11:53 am
by gardener
Sorry Jimmy! I am so slow at typing, we crossed posts.

Re: Jane Rose b abt 1857 nee severns--NL adding

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2016 7:59 am
by Northern Lass
hmmm

thanks

odd re wife........wonder if he remarried

1911 2 Navigation Row Tipton
ROSE, George Son Married M 27 1884 Chain Maker Sunderland
ROSE, Clara Wife Married 7 years F 24 1887 Tipton 3 children born all still living
ROSE, Rosannah Daughter F 5 1906 Tipton
ROSE, Lilly Daughter F 4 1907 Tipton
ROSE, James Son M 2 1909 Tipton

Marriage info added by Jan and looked up at the archives by RF
26 June 1904 St John Tipton
George Rose 22 bach Iron Worker Tipton Father William Rose Iron Worker
Clara Cartwright 20 spin Tipton Father James Cartwright Boatman
Wit; William Drew Alice Drew